No Certs (condom shoots)

[planeterotica]

Yes i would do the shoot !wink!

[Heidi Vincent]

Spot on Keiran.As a swinger who always uses condoms with like minded swingers I fully agree.You can never be 100% safe in the industry or swinging but you can be as safe as you can make it.
So William,that being said,for ?450 plus exp,I'd snatch their hand off,lol.

Heidi V.
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[Tanya Cox]

condoms are definately safer than certs , i would say set your terms for the shoot ie you don't do oral on them and you wear a condom for penetration and oral performed on you, i don't trust certs , keiran is right infections go around to offen in the uk, 2 many people are being careless and doing uncerted without pertection or there wouldn't be this problem.
clearly your not 1 of them so don't worry about damaging your rep as long as you use protection i think you will be very respected for your honesty.

[Keni]

My answer is yes william, I would.

What I was simply stating is that condom and cert is safer and most of the companies I know who shoot condom also require certs. If it was for a company then I would of assumed they would of still needed certs too.

Anyway like I said earlier, we ALL take risks in varying degrees. Ideally we try our best to minimise those risks and those choices are down to the individual.

Bareback certed sex is what pays my rent and feeds me, this is a higher risk than condom certed but again I choose to do this job so be it.

Condom uncerted, in my opinion is more risky than bareback certed because yes we all know condoms can often split and in this case you have no idea of this persons sexual health background.

In exactly the same way that you have no idea who fucked who in the industry bare back or who did what behind closed doors OR who has genuine or fake certs... blah blah the list goes on and there are risks everywhere.

However the risk is simply that, its a risk, maybe not a massive risk and it is your choice. I am sure you prefer like all of us not to take too many risks but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do man.

Good luck and if you do decide to do it then hopefully you can forget about all this, enjoy the girls and have a great scene!

Keni

[sandie]

i agree with tanya, graham and heidi. a cert protects u from nothing. condoms are safer but everyone working in porn whether they chose to work protected or not should have enough sence and respect to still get regularly tested.

id do the shoot william but id make sure i know the risks that are still at large even in a protected shoot. if u feel safer use dams and condoms for oral too.
id also suggest u explain to the girls why they should get tested even tho they use condoms.

i disagree with keni that "Condom uncerted, in my opinion is more risky than bareback certed". if that were the case the clinics and government would be promoting testing and not condom usage to the masses. hes entitled to his opinions and beliefs tho and i respect that. like u say keni we have to make our own rules and standards on what we feel is a risk to us as an individual until someone comes along and sets those standards in stone for us to adhere to.

[sandie]

Keni wrote:

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> Ok back to basics... common sense here Will... CONDOM AND CERT
> IS THE SAFEST SCENE YOU CAN DO.
>
> >
>

amen to that.

[Keni]

Sandy - i disagree with keni that "Condom uncerted, in my opinion is more risky than bareback certed".

Lol! Well I read that back and it does sound kinda strange what I said and I know I dont need to explain more but I will. I personally, and its only my personal opinion but I personally feel safer having sex with a select group of industry professionals who I know and trust well than having covered sex with a complete stranger and hoping it don't split.

I dont know? I guess I know that condom covered sex is 99% effective etc but I guess my opinion is that I am a bit scared of the civilian world now! Lol! Sounds absolutely crazy when I think about it but then again now I do think about it, I cant remember the last time I had sex with a 'civilian' for want of a better word? Omg I must be a sad case! I been working in porn since 2006, whilst I was in the UK I had loads of doses in my first year. Since I have been in europe I've had a grand total of 2... in over a year!

I just feel safer in my little porno bubble where I know at least that the girls are regularly tested as opposed to normal girls who some may not even know what they got? Ho hum, thats what porn does to you I guess?

I'll get my coat...

[Keiranlee]

Im feeling you Keni mate...

10months over here and not one scare....

Only thing is a sore cock from to much fucking...lol

[MrAnglia]

SpunkySam wrote:
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> Really certs are only effective on the date of issue

Indeed. I'm only a porn viewer, but from where I'm sitting the certs issue is one of pre-emptive damage limitation and containing any potential outbreak, rather than a foolproof method of keeping nasties at bay. It just means that if something does come up, only those you've worked with since your last clean test need worry themselves. Just like any other workplace Health and Safety legislation really. It promotes best practice, and gives you a clear procedure for when the shit hits the fan, but that shit can still happen.

[Tanya Cox]

i agree keni, much as i still check certs carefully , i just don't trust them with not knowing what performers have been up to since there test , i would feel much safer if condoms and certs where both used .