No Certs (condom shoots)

[myson]

William,

Obviously the ultimate decision is yours but personally I would be inclined to decline as the girls are uncertificated (so presumably not tested?).

Ok, condoms do provide a level of protection but they're still not 100%.

See if you get any response here from any pro studs, they'd know better than me.

Myson
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[clare40dd]

so your a perfomer? you should know already no one would book you for b/g/g without experience

[Masie]

The trouble is that you will only use condoms for penetration and suprisingly you can catch things from oral both givign a recieving. Its up to you really. If you have only just got indate certs yourself dont waste them by doing somethign so silly but if your due back at the clinic next week anyway and its only you your risking no one can touch you for it, just try not to put anyne else at risk as then the certs system becomes pointless. x

[Pho3nix]

What I have always been told is "no certs = no work", so I am inclined to decline the shoot. I always have certs for my shoots, and fortunately have never been asked to do a condom shoot, as I have been told it doesnt sell as well as bareback work.
I can understand you not wanting to get a bad rep if you take the shoot on, and I can also see the point about not turning work down!

At the end of the day, I as the female performer always has the right to refuse a shoot if condoms are worn, or i can demand condoms to be worn either, but i am not sure how it works for male performers.

[planeterotica]

It is probably safer to work with condoms and no certs than work with certs and no condoms but at the end of the day it is up to the performers concerned to decide but most producers require certs and bareback because it does sell better !wink!

[myson]

It's a difficult one to call William. The only comment I can make is what I think I would do in the same situation which would probably be "condoms or not, no tests/certs, no shoot".

As Masie said, it is possible to contract an STI via oral sex so if you do decide to go ahead and accept the shoot, you could possibly accept on the condition that you DON'T perform oral on the girls?????

Would performing a condom only shoot (no tests/certs) be frowned on or have a knock on effect? I couldn't say, you'd really need a producer to answer that one for you (maybe One Eyed Jack could advise on that if he reads this thread?)

You don't say in your original post when this shoot is. You could try insisting that the girls are tested prior to and have certs on the day??? If the producer refuses then , in my opinion, it shows that he/she/they have no concern for their performers health.

Anyway, whatever you decide to do, good luck !thumbsup!

Myson
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[Keni]

Ultimately your choice William!

He is some of my insight bro, who is this production for exactly? Do they not have to abide to the regulations most other companies do, as in supplying proof of the performers clean sexual health? I.e scanned, copied and photographed versions of the performers tests?

In France by law they can ONLY shoot condom porn these days and big companies such as Dorcel are still making money and shooting a lot! I do not object in any way to condom porn, it is a lot safer after all. However, I know to shoot for Dorcel which is condom only, you still need to have clean and in date certs.

As far as I am concerned that is industry standard on the 'professional' side of the business. Of course the amateur side, and I do not mean that in a derogatory sense, they do things a little different and once again, it is down to the discretion of the two performers. Also it has been know that companies who do not even need copies of sexual health tests will and rightfully can shoot any two performers who agree to have sex with each other! Amateur couples for example.

Keni

[SpunkySam]

Ultimately as its been said william its your decision.

Really certs are only effective on the date of issue this standard 4 week rule is daft if your working on a weekly basis and do a shoot the week of your test then another 3 shoots before your next test, if you have caught something on that first test then you could potentially pass that on to 3 more performers and how many performers will they be working with between then and there next tests....

As Keni has said in france its now law to only do condom only shoots in france and there are industry moves in the US for the same, really this is the way we should be going here however since the UK industry is so diffuse and so de-regulated it could still be many years before this happens.