I'm not gtreat at maths, but with the flights and hotels on top, it works out kind of expensive, oh and they dont speak much english, and have very little sense of humour.
Give me the brit girls any day.
After all beauty is in the girl who lets your cock inside her.
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Those prices are a bit steep but if you know the right people you can get them a bit cheaper, though I know most of the girls there I could get them down in price without agency fees but like I said, it depends on who you know. I wouldnt travel to Europe blind without a cane and like I said Europe has wised up to the exploitation. Exploiters are now movig into Romania, Lithuania regions and if you are a newbie or established for that matter, do not venture into Russia unprepared. There are two companies I know of allowed to shoot there and believe me, they paid a huge amount to do so. One of which is an american company a friend of mine is shooting for but all this is besides the point: Start from where you know best before travelling further afield.
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I suspect your time at the National Film School, has in fact narrowed your vision and potential for originality. It would appear that you have approached members of the "UK Porn Star Cartel", which exists at the moment. This is a small group of predictable looking studs and studesses, who although having been shot to death, honestly believe that they hold this business by the balls. The idea is that they only shag each other and try to drive their prices up. You have been mistakenly led to believe that you must only use skinny blondes matched with wierd looking pumped-up perma-tan studs, to get success in this business.
I think if you were to contact almost any agent in the country, you would be spoilt for choice for girls, who don't come attached to an oily stud!
Go on, be daring, break the stereotype, use a different look. For God sake, I used a guy in a wheelchair to compare a show for TVX (Kinky Kiwi Show). This is probably the most exciting time in Brit Porn at the moment. Time for new faces, new figures and new plots.
I think if you were to contact almost any agent in the country, you would be spoilt for choice for girls, who don't come attached to an oily stud!
Go on, be daring, break the stereotype, use a different look. For God sake, I used a guy in a wheelchair to compare a show for TVX (Kinky Kiwi Show). This is probably the most exciting time in Brit Porn at the moment. Time for new faces, new figures and new plots.
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I actually aplaud these guys and girls for putting their fees up in one way because surely it will have a knock on effect and let us - the people who make the stuff put our fees up and thus surely it will make all the tight arsed distributors do the same. At the end of the day they'll just just make the poor old punter pay in the end so whats new!
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Maybe I was a bit more forceful than necessary.
I wish you the best of luck. This is a complicated business and while I'm sure the NFTS and TV work has prepared you for the technical and even artistic challenges of production that's got bugger all to do with filming people having sex.
There is a reason why a first-timer with a camcorder they bought half an hour ago from Dixons can sometimes produce stuff more erotic than an American mega-bucks production - and it's the performers.
Some performers are good at getting horny, some are good at faking it and some are... well not good at either.
Ultimately this is a people business, and getting the best out of the people in it is not the same as working with actors in mainstream productions.
But that dawns on most people after the first ten minutes of their first shoot!
Again, good luck!
I wish you the best of luck. This is a complicated business and while I'm sure the NFTS and TV work has prepared you for the technical and even artistic challenges of production that's got bugger all to do with filming people having sex.
There is a reason why a first-timer with a camcorder they bought half an hour ago from Dixons can sometimes produce stuff more erotic than an American mega-bucks production - and it's the performers.
Some performers are good at getting horny, some are good at faking it and some are... well not good at either.
Ultimately this is a people business, and getting the best out of the people in it is not the same as working with actors in mainstream productions.
But that dawns on most people after the first ten minutes of their first shoot!
Again, good luck!
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I don't agree Dave. The shiester distributors will fuck us over what ever happens.As producers we are stuck in the middle, these models screwing us on one side and the distributors on the other. In fact you could say we are being DP'd!
Also I think the "porno cartel" models are actually trying to drive other models out of the business. Remember it was they who started the 4 week HIV cert business, they whispered the idea and got others to instigate it, not for health reasons, but merely to make it more difficult for new models to keep working. Can you remember how silent all those who shouted for the 4 week HIV rule were, when we heard a couple of months ago about the poor model diagnosed with HIV at Charing Cross? I remember the whole thing was shoved under the carpet very fast.
They are trying (in vain) to make the business exclusive to themselves.
Also I think the "porno cartel" models are actually trying to drive other models out of the business. Remember it was they who started the 4 week HIV cert business, they whispered the idea and got others to instigate it, not for health reasons, but merely to make it more difficult for new models to keep working. Can you remember how silent all those who shouted for the 4 week HIV rule were, when we heard a couple of months ago about the poor model diagnosed with HIV at Charing Cross? I remember the whole thing was shoved under the carpet very fast.
They are trying (in vain) to make the business exclusive to themselves.
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I don't know about the DIY hiv tests, but I do know that foreign girls are already swamping our shores and good luck to them too!
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The DIY HIV tests sounds ideal but I've been told it is unreliable.
Dave Wells wrote:
I actually aplaud these guys and girls for putting their fees up in one way because surely it will have a knock on effect and let us - the people who make the stuff put our fees up and thus surely it will make all the tight arsed distributors do the same. At the end of the day they'll just just make the poor old punter pay in the end so whats new!
I can't tell whether you are serious or joking. Surely you of all people Dave, know that our fees are not going to go up and even if it does, it's only marginally. The average dvd sells for ?20, I sincerely doubt with the availability of so much product that distributors will increase the prices because it will be difficult getting the shops to step in line.
If you really want to raise the prices make something a bit more specialist and exclusive like femdom or spanking tapes. I never knew why they got more money for it but their fan base seems prepared to pay it.
Dave Wells wrote:
I actually aplaud these guys and girls for putting their fees up in one way because surely it will have a knock on effect and let us - the people who make the stuff put our fees up and thus surely it will make all the tight arsed distributors do the same. At the end of the day they'll just just make the poor old punter pay in the end so whats new!
I can't tell whether you are serious or joking. Surely you of all people Dave, know that our fees are not going to go up and even if it does, it's only marginally. The average dvd sells for ?20, I sincerely doubt with the availability of so much product that distributors will increase the prices because it will be difficult getting the shops to step in line.
If you really want to raise the prices make something a bit more specialist and exclusive like femdom or spanking tapes. I never knew why they got more money for it but their fan base seems prepared to pay it.
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