Global Warming

[Peter]

alicia_fan_uk wrote:


>
> And yes, the Earth's climate has always changed, but never at
> such a rate as is happening now


Apart from around 1200AD when the temperature soared at such a rate for 30 years that todays doom-mongers would be repenting their sins and preparing for armageddon. (And then fell again over the next 30 years)

Not as many cars or industrial emissions to blame then, though, so we'll conveniently forget that, as it doesn't fit the argument.

I'm quite willing to be convinced that global warming is Man made, but until they can come up with PROOF, I'm not going to be dramatically changing my life based on nothing more than a trendy theory.

[diplodocus]

and here lies the problem with the sceptics - they want total proof, sorry never going to happen, science doesn't work that way

Global warming is possibly the most tested theory is the modern era with the exception of evolution and most of the arguments have been put to bed now. The only issue now is how far it will go and what effect it will have

Even some of the hardcore sceptics of the last few years have accepted that the earth is warming and we are having an effect - this has even been admitted by the pentagon in a leaked memo to Bush which says the argument is over

[Deuce Bigolo]

I think all the scare mongering is pointless

Until it comes to your front door its someone elses problem

You want people to change you show them the effects LOCALLY if they keep on going down the current path

Rather than the vision of a ridiculous 60 metre tidal wave how about the simple air quality

Take a look at any urban area compared to a rural one
then sample the condition of the peoples lungs

No prizes for guessing who is healthier....Thats real...estimates are 5/10 years of life difference...the worst part of this is the best place to breathe in all the fumes of the urban jungle is in your car

[andy at handiwork]

One swallow does not a summer make. A little bit of snow, that round my way was gone by 10, does not alter the fact that global temps are rising and that to a large extent, we are responsible. I remember winters when I was a lad and then we had real snow for weeks on end. 40 years later, my kids were 10 before they saw any real snow.

[crofter]

I can exclusive reveal that my carbon footprint takes a hefty rise per the weekend .... usually after a Lamb Madras and 10 pint of Kingfisher Lager and my ozone layer aint too clever either!!

[JonnyHungwell]

I remember those winters too, when we would be sent home from school because of the snow - and walking through snow up to our knees to get home. It's true we don't get that anymore, but back in the 60s/70s we did get warm summers and defined seasons.

What we get now, at least in the north of the UK, is this non-stop year long cold, windy and wet weather. There were no more than a dozen days this year when you could call it warm - and it was the same last year. There has not been a night when it wasn't too cold to sit out by 7pm. The heat wave of the south, earlier in the year didn't reach here, when London was 35C we were cloudy and 16C.

It wouldn't be bad having really cold weather if we had some respite in a decent summer, but we don't get that anymore - and neither do we get real spring or autumn anymore, the winter just lasts from about mid October through to the May of the next year, with varying degrees of cold/wet/windy conditions ---- then the Summer seems to be even wetter, but with slightly warmer temperatures of 15C-20C.

We're paying for the milder winters with getting no summer to talk about - and when it rains it's sometimes like a tropical downpour, but we never had the heat you'd expect before a tropical storm. This area has had severe flooding over the last two years, both times in the summer.