Racist bullying on Celebrity Big Brother

[fudgeflaps]

It was when Jacques posted the FAQ reminder that I felt a bit ashamed of myself!! He's pretty on the ball. !grin!

My reg will stay open, just to chip in now and again, I'll be going 'read-only' for a while! However, I wouldn't mind changing the user-name, a new alter-ego........

I suppose this thread has one positive after all- harsh words have been said, but forgiveness is a part of healthy human nature; something, Raj apart, we all seem capable of. A lot of us have vented, some have apologised, virtual handshakes all round. Terry put up with a lot! Forgetting, yes, we can all do that- a coping mechanism; genuinely forgiving all wrongs against you, the basis of a healthy effective personality! !boring!

I've been reading a lot of interpersonal psychology lately. No need for that gubbins here. !wink!

Anyway, I'm on my lunch, using my personal laptop. I'm putting it away before I suffer the interpersonal equivalent of rape. !laugh!

[mrchapel]

I haven`t got time for the man ever since he came out with some crap about how all the good looking black women are taken by white men and other shite that was as retarded and bigotted as any speech by the klan. I mean I didn`t realise there was a quota and these things had to be approved by him.

[one eyed jack]

I think its fair to say we've all said some comments out of turn at some point.

I think the comment you refer to about Spike might have been from an old Playboy interview. I also remember him saying in the next sentence that black guys always go for ...ahem, lesser good looking ladies of a lighter hue which Sam Jackson reflected his approvalin Jungle Fever by saying: Most brothers be wanting to get that penthouse pet but end up with the out house pet...but she is positively Suh-lamming! Titties be like boom, ass be like pow!...Its funny and some can see the lighter side of it too but it probably reflects something he has observed in america and some might even see it as a compliment.

So while he might give it, I do believe he can take it thereby in my opinion redressing the balance without being overtly patronising. Reverse racism makes me feel just as uncomfortable as racism itself.

Its a comment some might find distasteful, sure...But its like what Mel Gibson said about jews (oh man lets not go there)...I honestly dont think Mel Gibson hates jews but as Sam said to some effect earlier, some things should be able to be said, and if necessary justified with intelligent answers without resorting to tit for tat name calling and offensive remarks.

Then again in the context of which Mel said it made it wrong because he was busted and drunk at the time..But although this was a comment made by a devout christian, I betcha a lot of people were secretly nodding their heads in agreement.

The same for us all. What ever colour you are from, there is always a minority that makes it look bad for your (for lack of a better word here) colour.

Blacks are stereotyped for violent crimes and robbings stacked against them. Whites have soccer hooliganism and drunken behaviour abroad, the richer white folk are stereotyped for white collar crimes and serial killing and other things if you put it all down to social profiling but we all know the truth here, that despite this, there are so many variations and exceptions to the rule its not fair to generalise that all people in those categorys are that way inclined.

The reason I say this is that I have heard countless times from black and white people how some people of the same colour as themselves have made them embarrassed to be that colour because of something or other.

Spike Lee is just as hard on black people too. Not that I'm trying to sway you mind. If you dont like the bloke...then thats your god given right not to like him. No matter what colour he is.

[Officer Dibble]

Wise, insightful, words, Terrance. But we should not poo-poo stereotypes out of hand. Of course it?s not fair to generalise and make assumptions ? but, in the absence of any other data, it may well be prudent. In any biological system you will find the maximum possible diversity. But what you will also find is that there is a massive concentration of similar traits in the centre of that system. This is best illustrated by a mathematical diagram ?the bell curve? An example of this might that some geezers are four feet tall, some may be eight feet tall, but the majority will be six feet tall. Another more pertinent (to this forum) example would be that some geezers favour birds with no tits at all (strange but true) and some geezers might swear by birds who boast tits the size of barge balloons. But yer average geezer will favour an ample, but sensible, handful of silicon-free 38DD?s. In short, ?stereotypes? are not something that have been plucked out of the ether and then become received wisdom ? there is usually (at least) some basis in fact to support them.



Officer Dibble

[mrchapel]

Thats fair enough, I`m just of the opinion that he`s got a huge chip on his shoulder.
I think some stereotypes hold true. Well the ones about Americans. I had a girl on a message board I`m at leave upset after being harassed by a fucking hillbilly inbreed who gave her hell after finding out she`d dated a black guy, which is probably why I jumped in here.

[one eyed jack]

I actually feel sorry for those types of racists Mr Chapel because that particular guy may not feel confident within himself, or maybe he lacks the looks or money or both who knows to get a girl like that so feels cheated that a black dude got the white girl.

Kind of reflects Gene Hackmans line in Missisippi Burning when he said...Hell if you aint better than a nigga, who are you better than son....Right there is a statement that has me holding my head down turning side to side in sympathy for how someone can be so pathetic.

Its no wonder Hill Billys like this are often ridiculed for being stupid and ignorant. They bring it on themselves. I would laugh at them if it wasnt so sad a person can feel that shitty abou them selves. I bet you any thing the guy thinks the girl just likes black guys for having a huge dick! Its not as true as often as you would think.

I can bet you something else that a guy like that pretty much hates everyone else around him too for a similar reason.

[mrchapel]

The guys definatly got a lot of rage, a lot of it directed at anyone who isn`t white.
I mean don`t get me wrong, there`s people and organisations and shit I hate but I couldn`t kill or intentionally cause shit to someone just because of their opinionsm, colour of skin or religion apart from scientologists heh.
You could be right about the girlfriend thing as the fuckers damn bitter.
But the stereotypes, I don`t think thats a race thing. For example there was an article posted about a black guy who beat his girlfriends kid to death for yanking the cable out his xbox. And it started the "OMG Dumb black guys" post. That shit ain`t down to race, thats ignorance.

[one eyed jack]

I quote a line made by a black friend when discussing some blacks have a chip on their shoulder. He said, and I quote: A chip! Some n*****s got a sack of potatoes! Fuck the chips!

Spike may be one of them and its ok to vent ones spleen as long as its done intelligently. I cant help but like him and some of his films though but then I like Elton John too and dont care that he is gay either despite the reports he can be ..er difficult. I buy into the talent, not necesarily the person.

As for that guy who beat the kid to death. Fuck him! Being a dick head is universal and not indigenous to race so I definitely agree with you there. Hopefully he'll get his in prison. Maybe he can take his rage ou ton someone his own size.

[mrchapel]

Only one of Spikes movies I`ve seen was White men can`t jump. Found it a bit boring to be honest, but it was years ago maybe I should give it another watch.

I don`t think Eltons knocked anything decent out for years, regardless of preferences. I ain`t posting jack shit derogatory about gay folks. I chat with a fucking huge US marine who just came out a year back who`d rip my head off then shove it up my ass lol. Got to love that. Land of the brave and the free but if they found out he was gay then he`d be given a dishonourable discharge and never by allowed to do shit like own land or a home.
I just can`t understand why waste time on bigotry. I was raised in Glasgow, my grand parents a mixed marriage, catholic grandmother and protestant grandfather. He put up with shit from his family about marrying a catholic . Has kids and they go join the fucking Orange Lodge!!! I don`t fucking understand that.

[Jacques]

Maybe you should watch it again and read the credits !laugh!