How common are fake certs?

[one eyed jack]

John, If this is supposed to be discussed then why dont you share that with UKAP? Maybe you know more than we do.

Beyond the person we know we do not have proof of any others and if its the person i think you are talking about then hasnt he worked for a big company who pay for their tests anyway?

This is why we have a producers forum to discuss this sort of thing.

[one eyed jack]

How can the fans help?! Boycott porn until every performer starts wearing condoms????

The only people that can make a difference is the performers themselves.

[Dave Wells]

Oi !!!!!!!!

Peeps, I have probably produced more movies and stills than most of the UKAP members 'club' put together but they won't let me into their club coz I ain't a real producer with a distribution deal !

Ha !

And by that Terry I mean let me air my opinion on the secret forums on UKAP.com not by attending meetings.

[one eyed jack]

Not down to me Dave but i will ask. You know I am ccol with that but members are all paid up subscribers and that probably has something to do with it as well.

Most would think I am even mad to even be posting on here but youy know me..Mad as a march hare is me!happy!

[amber]

I agree with Tanya,
Anyone who is found to be faking their certs should be named and shamed and kicked out of the industry!!!
It is not that hard to go to a clinic once every 3 weeks and get tested, for goodness sakes its our sexual health we are talking about here! our lives!!
It is sick to think that anyone would want to put fellow performers at risk, but if thats the case, then when people are found out i think its only fair they should be publicly shamed!!
At the end of the day the only way its ever going to be sorted is by doing this online testing systerm, but that doesn't seem to be happening just yet?
Now as far as i was aware and i dont know if i can post this on here or not here goes.....
Was it not the case that you conjita were faking your certs for a number of months?

I am not singling conjita out in anyway and before anyone else posts back saying im out of order, i am sure others have faked certs as well and have not admitted it.
You have said it was a mistake?
How can it be a mistake you know its wrong!
We all know its wrong so why would you even do it in the first place?
If you did or did not have anything, it really does not matter anymore, faking your sti cert is illegal and morally wrong!
This is not a personal attack on conjita by the way, it is just my opinion which i feel i should be aloud to voice!
Its all well and good being sorry now, but its too late the damage has been done and its not like you confessed you got found out! which leads me to think that you would have carried on doing it if this would not have been the case.
By not getting a sti cert you could pick something up not know about it spread it round risking your own health fertility and in worst case your fucking life!!

[one eyed jack]

Naming , shaming and kicking people out of the business never works for the same reason I said earlier there is not enough unity in a business where as long as a girl has a fanny she will find work with others who dont come on here or belong to an association where they will get informed. As Johnny Rebel said earlier, he knows people who are doing it and yet people still hire them whoever they may be. As for most producers knowing this, I treat everything I am not party to knowing as 3rd person inforamtion and very careful how I listen to this sort of thing.

I appreciate the emotional response and understand it but Conchita is right, just because she came out and said it doesnt mean its game over for those who are still doing it. If anyhting this has highlighted a serious problem within the business.

If performers do not wish to work with those found out to be faking their certs then this is ok, but you know as well as I that when it comes to money and Conchitas recent tests are in the all clear that people will still work with her to get that money.

I'm just being realistic is all. All you can do is just refuse to work with her and that is all you can do but someone else will.

The AIM database system collapsed simply due to the lack of support on the day of the meeting. I hope a Perfromers association can rekindle it and the fans will come forward and help make it a reality.

You know where to find us producers when you are all ready to make it happen. You dont really need us to make it happen but its already there and waiting to have the support if people want it to happen.

[one eyed jack]

The answer to Dangermouses original post in my opinion is , I only know of one but i have heard of several others that I am not able to comment on because I have no proof to those rumours.

If the friend that told you was a producer who works with performers then I cannot substantiate his claim because I do not know that for a fact.

[one eyed jack]

Big Al wrote: I wouldn't personally be allowed on UKAP

Why not? You dont have to be a producer to use the general forum which is open to everyone.

If you are a producer you can just merely apply to join providing you pay your subscription fee and are actually producing videos...Otherwise there are other trade associations like AITA.

[planeterotica]

There is no quick answer to the fake certs problem and its been going on since certs were first introduced into the adult industry and with home printers now turning out a profesissonal job they are probably a lot harder to detect, a database would help to alleviate fake certs but could also throw up its own problems for instance what do you do if a person on the database is found to have worked with someone who is not on it, do you remove them from the database thus controlling who performers can or cannot work with which would result in a smaller controlled industry working alongside a bigger uncontrolled industry, if a database is ever going to work you will have to have some rules in place beforehand so performers know exactly what they would be signing up to.

[one eyed jack]

Good points Planet but you would think that type of thinking would be adopted already to prevent regular partners catching something unpleasant from someones work outside of their relationship.

The real importance of such a database is being able to quarantine people quicker than the system at the moment which is chaotic.

I just heard last night from a friend in the US that the pcr / dna testing only came about for the same reason that someone faked their certs and infected other people unaware they had an std