HIV spread and the brutalising of women.

[David Lever]

OK, I'm sorry, but I just don't like seeing women being abused. Call me wierd if you will.

[duff paddy]

Thanks for your comment Stonevid but my intention wasn't to defend the US male position. I was enquiring as to whether these guys need to evolve instead of regressing into brutality.

I had hoped to stay away from drawing parallels with the Iraq situation but we've no doubt all seen the pics of Iraqi prisoners being subjugated at the hands of US soldiers and I wonder whether this disregard for others is an endemic part of US male culture.

I shoot & edit adult videos in both the UK and US, mainly revolving around the "couples scene" During the course of these "souvenir shoots" it's struck me how US males regularly retreat into isolated pornography whereas the majority of UK males are more likely to embrace pornography with their girlfriends or spouses.

I know it's dangerous to generalise but perhaps this can be explained by two separate discussions, the first with a US male and the second with a UK male prior to me shooting a private movie featuring themselves and their wives.

The US male was more interested in me filming graphic closeups of his wife's orifices being fucked hard (involving deep throating, vaginal & anal), whereas the UK male was more interested in me capturing his wife's arousal and enjoyment (involving exatly the same as the US scene). Needless to say, one was terminally boring to shoot and the other was beautifully entrancing.

[joe king]

Which one sold the best?

[webmong]

I had hoped to stay away from drawing parallels with the Iraq situation but we've no doubt all seen the pics of Iraqi prisoners being subjugated at the hands of US soldiers and I wonder whether this disregard for others is an endemic part of US male culture.

They're some bad pictures arent they and there are many more which were taken away but you may spot quite a few females in thw shots too. Saddams henchman were torturing bastards but always knew if they didn't do it, they'd be killed themselves. Im not defending Saddmas people but what were the US troops excuse? I know one US army man was on the radio claiming they weren't trained properly and didnt understand the Geneva conventions but that's a terrible cop out.
Sadly though, our boys were caught with the same sort of pictures last year when a soldier tried to get them processed in the UK and I think there are now 7 cases waiting to be heard so it isn't just US males.

[duff paddy]

Webmong - good point

[duff paddy]

Joe King - They were never intended for sale. Just a video reference for the people involved.

Shame really, because I think (and I admit I have no experience in this area) the UK couple would have been equally appealing to male & female alike, and with the right marketing it could have sold quite well.

[Mojo]

Well, if you're going to throw derogatory references around about "fondly referred to you as organ donors", then I and many other bikers have got many, many...many derogatory references to call gormless car drivers. Yes, those gormless cretins in those metal boxes that drive mindlessly down our main highstreet (its a VERY well sign posted PEDESTRIAN PRECINCT!) blasting their horns at peds whilst sitting in their "tin cans" with "Forest Gump" looks on their faces! I've also seen them mindlessly driving up one way streets the WRONG WAY! Funny, but I haven't yet seen a biker doing such mind numbing stupid things.

And just for your information, Mr Flamer, most motorcycle accidents are caused buy car drivers useless driving skills!

[woodgnome]

please click the 'Reply To This Message' link when responding to someone else's post (assuming you read the forum in 'Flat View').

[woodgnome]

you are welcome to debate the pros and cons of the iraq war but on the o/t forum, not here thank you.