Vote: Online certs. Yes or No?

[one eyed jack]

Producers and models, please vote yes or no to this topic if you want it to happen or not.



In a nutshell, this is about making all HIV and STD certs available for viewing online via password protection to those in the UK adult business wanting to know the person they are working with is currently up to date with their certs before agreeing to work with them.

Personal details will be blurred out and this is not a substitute for seeing the actual tests on the day.

Please just vote on the link. This has already been hotly debated already here:



Sorry to drag this onto a fan forum but I know a lot of people dont know about the UK producers site.

[Cenobitez]

Password protection is a silly way of doing it, as all it takes is for someone to go 'yeah the password is benditlikedover' and everyone has access to it.

If the access system is robust or works the way AIM does, then yeah but password protection is asking for privacy law suits.

A robust and secure username, salt, password system would be needed, to make sure that only 'known' people have access but I think its still just 'ye olde breets playin catch up guv'.

[one eyed jack]

I think thats a bridge we can cross when al this becomes a reality but a valid point and yes, it is a case of us brits palying catch up.

Not only are we behind the US but behind Europe as well.

Now thats bad. Please post all future responses on UKAP please Steve as I know a lot of producers refuse to acknowledge producer related stuff here.

[Sam Slater]

I vote no. There's no central, independent health authority like there is in LA with AIM and so what purpose would it serve?

Performers still have to bring certs on set and they can still be doctored before submission to the site so I can't see how this would improve anything. Some might even see it as an unnecessary hassle.

[one eyed jack]

Yor vote wont mean anyhting here Sam. Use the link.

[one eyed jack]

Ive already been over this on the UKAP forum. Its already popular in the votes with some important players and regular performers in favour of it.

[Sam Slater]

Sorry, Terry, I thought it was a question to non-ukap members as well. Didn't realise non members' thoughts aren't deemed important.

What about producers/performers who aren't members? Will their input be ignored because they won't join your forum?

Sorry ? it just doesn't seem right.

Am I just being awkward?

[TheDonkeyWork]

... and should be embraced. But it needs to be done in an open and transparent manner and needs to be done WITH THE CLINCS or even THROUGH the clinics- not some self-appointed "producers" authority.

[jimslip]

Sometimes I have to despair, as if it's not only extremely difficult and expensive for people to just keep their certs up to date, now it is suggested that we have to now scan them or photograph them and place them on-line.

Are you all completely mad?

The whole point of these tests is firstly that they are confidential and secondly that they are a private concern between the producer and performers. You are suggesting that someone has a hard disc under his bed, which will one day contain thousands of personal details of different performers, to do with what he so chooses.

What's the point of "Blurring out the details", these details make the test actually worth something, otherwise sodding Mickey Mouse could have had the test, Christ Almighty!

Maybe the hard disc is stolen and the information published. Doesn't anyone realise that most Life Assurance agreements have a clause that obligates that you confirm that you have never had an HIV test, for any reason. This is why GUM clinics are so careful with the info that you give them.

So are you all prepared to supply someone, who may or may not be around in a few years all this delicate information about yourself, in his bedroom, that he could just as well toss on a skip at some time in the future?

The government can't even secure their databases so what hope in hell, has one of us, against a determined hacker, corporate or otherwise who has a vested interest in gaining this information.

Hasn't anyone also realised that this is a licence to forge tests? Anyone can knock one up and it will be impossible to tell on line whether it is genuine.

I will definately boycott this stupid idea, I want to see an original document from an institution, either hospital or clinic, on its original letterhead, not a copy, a fax, or on-line.

I personally will NEVER accept an on-line cert and if anyone turns up with no paperwork and the explanation, "Don't worry it's on- line", I'll put them straight back on the train from whence they came!