US vs UK porn

[JB]

Everyone, I'm working on an article about US vs UK porn and since that subject has sometimes been discussed here, I thought I'd post and get your thoughts. Feel free to chip in:

- How do you think they are different from each other?

- Why are they different?

- Which do you prefer and why?

All comments useful!

Thanks

[Darren L Morgan]

Hi Jerry,

Well...I suppose i can give you my point of view both from a UK producers and a performers side, having spent time on set with Poppy with the likes of Wicked, Vivid, DVSX etc. (plus Poppy and I spent one month at Pussymans home in LA...which was an experience!).
I cant, and never would speak for Poppy, but, in my opinion the US market in the main has more respect for performers. They are not just trying to shoot a new face and move on to the next, they understand who sells dvd's and the performers are treated like celebrities, that also includes the general public out there, it's so different i cant begin to explain, but its a wondeful and memorable experience everytime i vist the US with Poppy.
The US industry has, what i would call an "A,B &C payment structure" when it comes to performers. The top performers are paid a better rate, which is how it should be, how can the UK producers pay the same rate for a newbie as a recognised porn star?..but they do!
All this...without them even thinking about it, puts performers in a better state of mind, they feel valued, they feel they are an important part in that production, which is how it should be. Obviously it goes without saying the performer will produce a far better scene, hence why US porn is far better then that of the UK, the US know how to get the best out of a performer, and its all down to simple respect and understanding his/her values as a performer.
The same performer, in the UK, will still give 100% (if he/she is a proffessional), BUT....they are thinking..how much?...how long? who with?.. where as in the US it's...wow, this is a wonderful experience, I know the guy/girl i work with will be proffessional, and i just want to savour the experience..wonderfull location, excellent people..
So in a nut shell..it's all down to respect and understanding performers values and experience, understand this and you will get a far better scene out of that person..the Americans are the best at this...ok some may say they bullshit better...who cares? if the performer feels he/she is the best thing since cheese on toast, for that one day, that one scene, and they pay for his/her value and experience, then US porn will always put UK porn in the shadows.

I'll get my coat
(marino...stop steeling my quotes..you could have named your post "I'll get my cloak"..whatever...just a subtle difference would have done)

[puretotty]

US Porn fake blondes with big tits, traditionally hot looking girls.... UK porn any old thing works....

There is that good enough to get the conflict going ?

[sandie]

when i was in the US i felt like i was being objectified and here in the land of the great i do not!

there, thats my 2p worth.

[puretotty]

PS I am only joking girls... u know there are some hot UK girls out there... and legends like Poppy Morgan, Renee Richards and natalie Heck who have stormed it in the USA...

[corona]

I?m a relative novice in the world of porn, but from that I can tell, the US porn industry is far lager than the UK porn industry. This could be due to two factors, the US is larger, and the (to my knowledge) have less restrictions on what they can get away with. This also applies to Holland/Germany etc.

You only have to look towards horror films. The US have horror films that are not allowed here in the UK, they are banned. More of the time, the UK gets a cut version of the US release.

With more girls entering and the exiting the US porn industry, which is larger than the UK industry, logic dictates that every now and then, a true porn star is found. Brianna Banks, Jenna Jameson to name two, are two super attractive girls that the average punter wants to see again and again and again. And good luck to them.

[JB]

Thanks for the comments so far. Here are some of my thoughts. Note that I'm not moralising for or against something - we sell a lot of Yank porn as well as loads of British stuff. But here are some differences I've noticed...

- American porn tends to put the women in more submissive roles than British porn does.

- Race is more important in American porn - some American girls won't do "interracial" while I've never seen that issue in the UK.

- The "barely legal" thing of picking girls who look as young as possible, seems to be much more an American thing than a British one (in fact, our favourite niche among Brits seems to be mature/MILF porn).

[TheDonkeyWork]

I'd agree with the first... to an extent - but not the other two...

Yes, the male does tend to be the one "calling the shots" in the scenes - or more often thant not the males plural. But are the women really "submissive" in the strictest sense? I dont think so.

Interracial - there's f'ing plenty of it... plenty of titles along the lines of "Black Dicks, White Chicks" etc. Having saud that, maybe the fact that they make an issue of the interracial nature proves your poitn but I think it's perhaps more a case of the yanks trying to cover every persuasion and every kink and more a marketing ploy than a case of "race being important".

The barely legal thing - nah... I've not picked up on this - aside from the out and out nasty-pieces of work, a la Max Hardcore.... I think what Yank porn DOES do is, as someone else in the thread has picked up on - it concentrates on good looking females with hard bodies, big tits, perfect make up more so than UK porn... and perhaps thats part of the reason Sandie says she felt "objectified" - thye seem to want the women to LOOK THE PART. Over here in the UK, a lot of the girls simply don't seem to have made an effort with their image...

And that's maybe the biggest difference for me - in the UK it is generally done on a shoestring... churned out for as little investment as possible (or it LOOKS like it) - whereas in the US - it looks like thye've thought about it a bit and thrown some coin a it....