Summary of responses to BNP lies/half truths

[David Johnson]

Guys and Gals,
I find myself having to repeat similar stuff on various threads time and time again about the BNP e.g. are they racist, homophobic, anti-semitic, just like the Black Policemans Federation, picked upon for no reason blah blah.
So before I go down the pub, I have summarised the main points. In future I am just going to reference this.
Have a good weekend
David

First for Mr JR Pornstar
Racist
In 1998 Griffin was found guilty of distributing material likely to incite racial hatred and was given a two year suspended sentence. This included material of an anti- semitic nature.

A Griffin quote "Without the White race, nothing matters. [Other right-wing parties] believe that the answer to the race question is integration and a futile attempt to create ?Black Britons?, while we affirm that non-Whites
have no place here at all and will not rest until every last one has left our land.?

Anti Semitic
Griffin remains an ardent Holocaust denier. In 2006 he was quoted in the Mail on Sunday as saying: ?It?s well known that the chimneys from the gas chambers at Auschwitz are fake, built after the war ended.?
In 1995, Griffin joined the BNP. He had become editor of The Rune, an antisemitic quarterly produced by Croydon BNP.

Homophobia
Griffin has also held staunchly homophobic views throughout his time at the BNP. Following the bombing of a gay pub in Soho, in which three people died, Griffin wrote, "The TV footage of dozens of 'gay' demonstrators flaunting their perversion in front of the world's journalists showed just why so many ordinary people find these creatures so repulsive".

Black Policemans Federation
do a search on the forum for a discussion of the tired, old BNP argument re. the Black Police Association.
In summary, but you need to read some of the old discussions - the BNP is a political organisation, none of the others that Max listed elsewhere are.
Surely you can see the idiocy of a political party who, if elected, would make decisions and pass laws for everyone, not even allowing non-whites to join their party or in many cases, attend their meetings?
White people CAN attend the Black Police Association. Personally I am more interested in what political parties request from their members than whether I am allowed to join the South India Dance Troupe or not!


For Max Tranmere on Griffin's homophobia.
Finally, Griffin stated on Question Time that he found two same sex individuals kissing to be repugnant. He is also against civil partnerships. Here are some more quotes from one of your sources, Wilkipedia
Griffin wrote on the wedding of Elton John to his partner David Furnish that "not only would we not allow Elton John to marry his boyfriend but our proposals for a strengthened Clause 28 would prevent such a sick parody of real marriage being shown on TV in any case".[127] BNP spokesman Phil Edwards stated that homosexuality "is unnatural" and "does not lead to procreation but does lead to moral turpitude and disease".[126]
This strikes me as homophobic, doesnt it to you Max????



And finally to Davey on the subject of Muslim bombers, multi-culturalism, soldiers, the Royal British Legion and cunts amongst other things

"what is it about him that the establishment fear so much?i have been watching QT for around ten years and have never seen such a handpicked biased audience and the other panelists gang up against one of the others before.for 50 minutes they were like a pack of wild dogs trying to force him to admit he was racist and that he denied the holocaust but were unable to manage it"

Griffin doesnt appear to get out much. He is used to speaking in front of a BNP audience in which there are no non-white members and anyone non-white is not allowed in. He clearly fell apart when he was put in front of an audience, many of whom didnt agree with him. On racism, I repeat Davey, try to get with it. Griffin was convicted in 1998 of inciting racial hatred for articles that denied the Holocaust and praised the Waffen SS.

"how many people knew what it says in the Koran about stoning rape victims "

Ever read the Old Testament, Davey. Makes your toes curl some of the stuff in there, seriously!!

"i went to a funeral today of my mates uncle.lovely old boy who served in the Buffs in WWII and saw action at El-Alemain,Tobruk and Crete where he was captured and spent 3 years in a P.O.W camp.there were a few of his old comrades there all in there late 80's and 90,s now.after we went to the British Legion club for a few bevvies where naturally there were lots of ex servicemen.The majority of people both men and women had something to say about last night.a couple of the old boys talking about the war had nothing but praise for the commenwealth troops they fought with especially the Sikh's but remarked that whatever we fought for it certainly wasnt a multicultural/multiracial society"
lets take what you say at face value. The Indian Army, over 2million strong fought in North Africa and Asia. At least 80,000 of their number got killed. They won 30 Victoria Crosses. So Davey, your argument is that these Indians can risk their lives, in many cases lose their lives, show great valour in their fighting with the British, but should they come over to Britain they are invaders? Not a very noble point of view Davey?
Secondly Davey, as you know the Royal British Legion do lots of good works to support the British army. In many cases a fantastic job is done. It was the Royal British Legion who gave Griffin a spanking by asking him to stop misappropriating the poppy symbol for the BNP's racist use. And finally I am sure you are aware of soldiers such as Simon Weston, horribly injured in the Falklands and Andy McNab, the SAS guy, who have lent their support to the "there is nothing British about the BNP" campaign.


"Another said it wasnt for Muslims to come here and blow us up and tell us what to do and how to live"
Whilst we are on the subject of bombers Davey, I assume that you have heard of the following -
In 2007, The Appeal Court increased David Copeland's sentence to a minimum of 50 years. The London nail bomber, who had been an active member of the BNP, had originally been sentenced to a minimum term of 30 years for the three bombs he set off in 1999 which killed three people and injured 139 others.
And not forgetting...
The conviction of Robert Cottage in 2008 for possession of explosives has once again highlighted the link between BNP members and racial violence and terrorism. While the BNP moved quickly to distance itself from the actions of a man who stood in three local elections as a BNP candidate, he joins a growing list of BNP members who have engaged in some form of terrorism.

!"i myself didnt think Griffen came across too well"
Agreed. He was shite, Davey. My neighbour's Scottie could have done better.

"all that free publicity will inevitably have gained them some more support."
Davey the Dancing Dog on Britains Got Talent got a lot of free publicity but you wouldnt vote for the dog, would you?

"Bunch of cunts".couldnt have put it better myself really"
Davey try to get it.
Imagine your parents were wiped out in the Holocaust.
Imagine your father was an Asian immigrant who answered the call in the 1960's for trained doctors to come over to support the NHS.
And a cunt called Griffin comes along and says there was no such thing as the Holocaust and your father is a foreign invader.
Wouldnt you be a teeny, weeny bit angry with Mr Griffin?

Let me try and explain it another way, Davey.
Imagine you have a 8 year old daughter.
Imagine your 8 year old daughter is anally raped by a paedophile.
Imagine you see that paedophile on television denying that there is anything wrong with being a paedophile.

Do you feel the anger, now Davey, just a little bit?

[max_tranmere]

David's back, and so is the BNP debate! lol.

[Sam Slater]

Jesus, Max, can you get anything right? As you can clearly see from the time-line, David posted his post a week ago. It was JRPornstar's post that brought it back up to the top of the forum.

[arseneltic]

Yeah real nice,but let's not mention the muslim's tube bombings 7/7,shall we as it's not P. C.

[Sam Slater]

'The Muslims' tube bombings'? You make it sound like every Muslim in the country was in on it.