Only about a fortnight ago Gordon Brown said that the British economy was in such good health that any downturn in the worlds economy would not affect us but with the recent problems at Northern Rock this appears not to be the case, Gordon has i think boxed himself into a corner with his consumer led economic boom based on easy credit and high taxation coupled with ambitious spending plans Gordons black hole is getting bigger all the time.
As far as an election goes he has two options either go for a quick election before the shit really hits the fans or go the full distance and hope that things look sweeter later on as i believe hard times are just around the corner.
A few years ago smug Gordon was so sure that his economic plans could never be derailed that he sold most of our gold reserves when the price was at its lowest for years the price now is touching an all time high i bet miracle Gordon still wished he had that gold because if he ever has to go to the International Monetary Fund to borrow money he wont get much as we have very little gold.
The goverment is now having to set aside billions to bale out the Northern Rock and has pledged to bale out any bank that needs it with taxpayers money which means this money will have to be diverted away from some of Gordons ambitious spending plans which he wont like doing so expect more tax grabbing ideas to get hold of your money to plug his blackhole.
Tony Bliar was once reported to have said and not very discreetly that Gordon would be a disaster for the Country, well for once i agree with him !sad!
Gordon Brown Is A Disaster
Re: Gordon Brown Is A Disaster
Gordon is a very clever man, and while chancellor he used every sneaky trick in the book to make it look like he was doing a great job, while making one awful decision after another, such as selling our gold reserves which cost this country 2 billion pounds (so maybe not that clever).
Only a stable world economy has made him look good.
Blair and Brown did not so much run the country as to stand back and let it run itself.
They did almost nothing to control rising personal debt, rising house prices, youth crime on the streets, illegal immigration, the use of illegal drugs and more. Meanwhile we have spent 6 billion fighting an illegal war in Iraq.
Blair saw it was all coming to an end, getting out when did and leaving Brown to take the can for it all.
Blairs one great chance to get his own back on Gordon.
Only a stable world economy has made him look good.
Blair and Brown did not so much run the country as to stand back and let it run itself.
They did almost nothing to control rising personal debt, rising house prices, youth crime on the streets, illegal immigration, the use of illegal drugs and more. Meanwhile we have spent 6 billion fighting an illegal war in Iraq.
Blair saw it was all coming to an end, getting out when did and leaving Brown to take the can for it all.
Blairs one great chance to get his own back on Gordon.
Re: Gordon Brown Is A Disaster
Fear not, chaps.
Wazza will be along soon to explain to us how / why we have it all wrong and why Grim Gordon and NuLabour are in fact the answer to all our prayers !grin!.
Wazza will be along soon to explain to us how / why we have it all wrong and why Grim Gordon and NuLabour are in fact the answer to all our prayers !grin!.
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The most significant and catastrophic thing Brown and Blair have done is the creation of PPP. Basically it puts public organisations that exist to serve the nation - schools and hospitals notably - at the mercy of private companies with one objective: profit, through non-negotiable contracts with an average duration of 30 years!
By sub-contracting elements of their contracts, such as cleaning and maintenance services, the private partners increase their profits and the public partners have no way of ensuring quality of service. In time, this will lead to ever diminishing standards in our schools and hospitals, or the lunacy of their paying additional fees to an alternative contractor to ensure standards, whilst still having to honour the payments on their original contracts - ultimately leaving them with even lower funding levels.
This will all come home to roost long after Brown is just a faded stain on the political tablecloth. In effect he's selling off public assets and permitting them to be squeezed for profit. Oh, but he's still a Socialist of course.
Still, no one really gives a fuck as long as they can have Big Brother and cheap flights abroad.
By sub-contracting elements of their contracts, such as cleaning and maintenance services, the private partners increase their profits and the public partners have no way of ensuring quality of service. In time, this will lead to ever diminishing standards in our schools and hospitals, or the lunacy of their paying additional fees to an alternative contractor to ensure standards, whilst still having to honour the payments on their original contracts - ultimately leaving them with even lower funding levels.
This will all come home to roost long after Brown is just a faded stain on the political tablecloth. In effect he's selling off public assets and permitting them to be squeezed for profit. Oh, but he's still a Socialist of course.
Still, no one really gives a fuck as long as they can have Big Brother and cheap flights abroad.
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chatterji wrote:
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Have to concur. That one ranks as almost criminal.
Another good example is that if you're unfortunate enough to have to stay in hospital, you can end up spending a small fortune just to make phone calls or watch a bit of TV to ease the boredom, thanks to the contracting-out of these things to those premium-rate, total rip-off "patientline" companies.
Fucking disgrace the whole thing.
- Eric
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Have to concur. That one ranks as almost criminal.
Another good example is that if you're unfortunate enough to have to stay in hospital, you can end up spending a small fortune just to make phone calls or watch a bit of TV to ease the boredom, thanks to the contracting-out of these things to those premium-rate, total rip-off "patientline" companies.
Fucking disgrace the whole thing.
- Eric
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Flat_Eric wrote:
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> Another good example is that if you're unfortunate enough to
> have to stay in hospital, you can end up spending a small
> fortune just to make phone calls or watch a bit of TV to ease
> the boredom, thanks to the contracting-out of these things to
> those premium-rate, total rip-off "patientline" companies.
>
> Fucking disgrace the whole thing.
>
> - Eric
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>
Does it not also cost you an arm and a leg to make a call to
your loved ones under this system during their hospital stay??
>
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> Another good example is that if you're unfortunate enough to
> have to stay in hospital, you can end up spending a small
> fortune just to make phone calls or watch a bit of TV to ease
> the boredom, thanks to the contracting-out of these things to
> those premium-rate, total rip-off "patientline" companies.
>
> Fucking disgrace the whole thing.
>
> - Eric
>
>
Does it not also cost you an arm and a leg to make a call to
your loved ones under this system during their hospital stay??
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I hate this place when it gets so fucking right wing.
What about Norman Lamont on Black Wednesday- with DAVID CAMERON as his Adviser? Or Nigel Lawson always overheating the econmoy before an election- leading to big cuts afterwards. Heath and the 1973 banking crisis? The use of 'Stop-Go' economics in the 1950s?
No 'Boom and Bust' with Brown- but that all the time from the Tories. And your money in their fatcat pockets, don't forget!
What about Norman Lamont on Black Wednesday- with DAVID CAMERON as his Adviser? Or Nigel Lawson always overheating the econmoy before an election- leading to big cuts afterwards. Heath and the 1973 banking crisis? The use of 'Stop-Go' economics in the 1950s?
No 'Boom and Bust' with Brown- but that all the time from the Tories. And your money in their fatcat pockets, don't forget!
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Re: Gordon Brown Is A Disaster
colonel wrote:
> I hate this place when it gets so fucking right wing.
>
> What about Norman Lamont on Black Wednesday- with DAVID CAMERON
> as his Adviser? Or Nigel Lawson always overheating the econmoy
> before an election- leading to big cuts afterwards. Heath and
> the 1973 banking crisis? The use of 'Stop-Go' economics in the
> 1950s?
>
> No 'Boom and Bust' with Brown- but that all the time from the
> Tories. And your money in their fatcat pockets, don't forget!
planeterotica wrote:
No Boom or Bust you are correct on that one because when Brown needs more money he conjures up another tax to hit us with, he has sold the family silver ie the gold he has raided the pension funds and if you have money that has been sitting in a bank account for a few years with no activity he thinks it belongs to him, he has been raking it in via the booming housing market with stamp duty and inheritance tax and he still wants more, yes he will prop up the banks and the economy but we will all pay for it with higher council tax and any other ways he can think of grabbing your hard earned money.
If Brown was such a clever chancellor he should have seen this coming many others did ,but he was happy to let the easy credit roll on while the fatcats in the banking industry lined their pockets up until now when the money has run out and the rest of us will have to bale them out.
The only clever thing about Brown is that he is good at hiding the fact that he is a disaster where Bliar had it written all over him !thumbsdown!
> I hate this place when it gets so fucking right wing.
>
> What about Norman Lamont on Black Wednesday- with DAVID CAMERON
> as his Adviser? Or Nigel Lawson always overheating the econmoy
> before an election- leading to big cuts afterwards. Heath and
> the 1973 banking crisis? The use of 'Stop-Go' economics in the
> 1950s?
>
> No 'Boom and Bust' with Brown- but that all the time from the
> Tories. And your money in their fatcat pockets, don't forget!
planeterotica wrote:
No Boom or Bust you are correct on that one because when Brown needs more money he conjures up another tax to hit us with, he has sold the family silver ie the gold he has raided the pension funds and if you have money that has been sitting in a bank account for a few years with no activity he thinks it belongs to him, he has been raking it in via the booming housing market with stamp duty and inheritance tax and he still wants more, yes he will prop up the banks and the economy but we will all pay for it with higher council tax and any other ways he can think of grabbing your hard earned money.
If Brown was such a clever chancellor he should have seen this coming many others did ,but he was happy to let the easy credit roll on while the fatcats in the banking industry lined their pockets up until now when the money has run out and the rest of us will have to bale them out.
The only clever thing about Brown is that he is good at hiding the fact that he is a disaster where Bliar had it written all over him !thumbsdown!