London Bombings - More Strangeness

[Steve R]

Watching BBC TV's Breakfast News this morning, I was very pleased to see a BBC reporter voice doubts as to whether these were "suicide bombings" at all.

He pointed out the absurdity of police claims that these men had been carrying ID and cited the fact that all of the suspects had purchased return tickets and that two of them had pregnant wives.

A further absurdity is that the ID survived the explosion intact in each case.

Sadly, and disturbingly, it is beginning to look as though this was no terrorist attack but, like 9/11 clearly was, yet another example of a government being fully prepared to sacrifice its own citizens to clear the way for increasingly draconian legislation.

I predict that we will soon see some pretty wide-reaching legislation passed to "protect" us from such attacks. After all our various governments' real aim is not to serve us (as is supposed to be the case), but to manage us.

[mart]

And so the conspiracy theories start.

Mart

[RetroDon]

Absolutely correct Steve.
Since 9/11, it has become all but impossible for international investments groups to operate due to the ever-increasing "anti-terrorism" legislation - unless you can "prove" the source of the money (harder to do than you think when dealing with large international amounts already controlled by confidentiality clauses). In a world intent on keeping us all managably poor, this is all very convenient indeed, and just one aspect of the far-reaching effects of this new legislation brought about to "protect us".
And yes, I am talking from experience here.

[P-Nix]

Yeah, I guess that is why Charles Clarke was on tv the next day saying that ID cards would not have stopped an attack like this.

You are, my friend, quite frankly talking shit and insulting everyone if you honestly believe that.

I'm no fan of this government, but to say they'd kill 55 (at last count) of their own citizens and disrupt London for a while is complete and utter bollocks.

Can I see some prrof that the US government was to blame for 9/11? And I mean proof, not just the rantings of some near facist Americans who believe their government is communist.

[Steve R]

mart wrote:

> And so the conspiracy theories start.
>
> Mart


The conspiracy theories have already been voiced.

For example the conspiracy theory that a hard-working family man from Leeds, with a wife expecting a baby, should suddenly decide to buy a return ticket to London, carry indestructible ID and blow himself to smithereens.

Oh yes, and the conspiracy theory that a Boeing 757 can fly into the side of the Pentagon and cause an impact hole of only 16 feet across.

Oh yes, and the conspiracy theory that a jet fuel fire can cause a steel-frame building to collapse [NB. no steel-frame building has ever collapsed due to fire - it is a scientific impossibility].

[Steve R]

P-Nix wrote:

......not just the rantings of some near
> facist (sic) Americans who believe their government is communist.


.....or indeed the rantings of some near-communist Americans who believe their government is Fascist [which is what I believe you were trying to say].

[mart]

OK then lay it out for us idiots.

Mart

[P-Nix]

1. Apologies for spelling fascist wrong.

2. What I was trying to say was what I said. There are a considerable number of people and groups in the US who believe the government (at all times, not just now) to be communist.

3. You said "Oh yes, and the conspiracy theory that a Boeing 757 can fly into the side of the Pentagon and cause an impact hole of only 16 feet across." I don't know if you remember but the footage from September 11th after the first plane had hit the WTC but before the second plane had hit showed what seemed like quite a small hole in the side of the building, and the commentators on TV were talking about a "small plane" hitting the the building. Have a look here as well

4. As I requested in my first post in this thread, can I see some proof of your claims?

Many thanks.

P

[Steve R]

P-Nix wrote:


> I'm no fan of this government, but to say they'd kill 55 (at
> last count) of their own citizens and disrupt London for a
> while is complete and utter bollocks.


On the contrary.

Let us not forget the fact that, between 1914 and 1918, the British "Establishment" extravagantly sacrificed the lives of literally millions of its own citizens for no loftier purpose than to save face and, of course, to preserve Victorian moral values.

[P-Nix]

OK then, ignore my second post and go back to a point in my first if you still haven't got any evidence to back up your claims.

I don't think the Establishment of 1914-18 thought "let's get involved in a long war where a generation of young lads will be wiped out". You are stating that our current government blew up three tube trains and one bus, and killed over 50 people to bring in legislation, then sent one of it's representatives on the radio the next day to say that these incidents would not have been stopped had this legislation been brought in.

Here Mr BGAFD says "This forum will not be allowed to descend into a shit-stirrers convention for those who would use the abominable events of last thursday to promote their own dubious opinions."

I'm going to ask for a third and final time where your evidence is that the American government where behind September 11th and the British government were behind the attacks of 7th July.