Isabel Ice mpeg

[SID THE CYNIC]

as per subject.

feel quite sotty for her. Doesn't seem to enjoy at all. Almost as thought she's forced to do it. Sad.

What do you lot think?

Sid

[myson]

Call me old fashioned if you like (and I'm sure many will) but I much prefer to see girls actually enjoying what I would call "nice sex". The kind of where you could almost say that the guy is "making love" to her.

But, that's not the fashion today is it?

Ho hum.


Myson


PS.
I'm not blaming the producers of such material, they're only providing what the punter wants.

[one eyed jack]

Looking at the images without seeing the scene I think it would be difficult looking like she was enjoying it when her throat is crammed hard with cock.

I never understood those pictures in porn mags when a girl is being dp'ed and reamed silly and she looks at the camera to smile...What is all that about?????

[randyandy]

I am with you on this one Pete.

The only thing we differ on is that I do blame the producers!

Andy

[one eyed jack]

Randy Andy blames the producers. Fair point. But think of this Andy: The producer wants girls to do something like this and the girl goes ahead and does it. Surely two wrongs can't be right?

I'm not putting you down for your opinion Randy Andy but being a producer myself, I've been asked by certain girls to do shall we say questionable things that even I have had to turn down because it would incur the wrath of certain decent minded folk.

I really cant find it in myself to be sympathetic on this subject when a girl agrees to do something like this.

Also dont be fooled by things like this. I am not far wrong when I say that some girls actually love this sort of thing. Some consider it an anethema or an adrenaline shot to dull porn...Or at least thats what they will have you believe. Personally, I don't think so. But thats me

[randyandy]

I agree in lots of ways with what you say Terry BUT the producers can say NO if the models make requests.

Your the ones making the films not the performers.

I know the performers can do the same when it comes to what they will and won't do but some can't or won't.

I not an expert or anything and believe things can happen in the heat of the moment during a shoot but the extreme stuff just isn't for me.

Andy

[one eyed jack]

I only speak from experience Andy. A couple of times I've recoiled in terror that I've had to tell certain performers to tone it down because this is what they expect producers to want. I have never specified, slapping, spitting and gagging on any of my shoots. All I ask is a good shoot with energy. Everyone has their own interpretation of what that is.

For some, they emulate the kind of porn that they like to watch. Its not for everyone indeed but I am in the business of catering to a broad spectrum of my market.

More often than not if a performer is not up for something then depending on the producer, he'll be okay with it but more often than not, the models agree to it because this is what they feel they are being paid to do.

[randyandy]

Cheers Terry

I know what your saying and understand most of it.

The only problem I have is when you say "the models agree to it because this is what they feel they are being paid to do."

It's why I said I blame the producers in my original reply because in my opinion no one should feel they should have to do it because that is what they are being paid to do.

It's probably me not knowing how a film set works I'd just assumed that the model agreed to what they would do before the camera started rolling.

A model may agree to suck c**k but not agree to deep throat one while her nostrels were blocked and she had to gag on it, for example.

I know things happen in the heat of the moment but that type of thing always seems planned.

Andy

[sleepingboy]

I read a post by Isabel on another forum where she said she loves rough sex and that's why she only does extreme films that involve lots of anal.

I suppose that she's the only one that can truly tell whether she does like this sort of stuff or not, and as she occasionally posts on this forum maybe we can hope for a response from her.

Personally I think if she is into extreme stuff then fair play to her, l reckon she looks great and is a fantastic performer.

[Von Boy]

Don't you think thats a classic "private" trick Terry ??

I have a couple of their castings dvds and some of the east european girls answer the questions, via an interpreter with out the greatest of enthusiasm............next clip they are DP'ed and similing away at the camera !