Why is there such a craze these days about gaping holes in films. I can't see the need for it. I can't see it as being erotic, and I doubt very much if the girls in the films like it having it done to them. Having just acquired a Rocco film he seems to be obsessed with it.
How the world of porno has changed over the last twenty years (sigh!!!).
Gapers
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I think Chris Clarke's "Eurohardball" series was one of the first to feature it. Does seem strange - not to mention damaging.
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Officer Dibble
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Re: Gapers
"Why is there such a craze these days about gaping holes in films."
There isn't - excpet amongst the people who make those films.
"I can't see it as being erotic"
That's becuase it's not.
"I doubt very much if the girls in the films like it having it done to them"
Well, takes all sorts. But what I'm sure of is that the calibre of models I confine myself to using nowadays would not entertain the sligtest notion of that kind of stuff.
"How the world of porno has changed over the last twenty years (sigh!!!)."
Yes, it's sad isn't it?
Officer Dibble
There isn't - excpet amongst the people who make those films.
"I can't see it as being erotic"
That's becuase it's not.
"I doubt very much if the girls in the films like it having it done to them"
Well, takes all sorts. But what I'm sure of is that the calibre of models I confine myself to using nowadays would not entertain the sligtest notion of that kind of stuff.
"How the world of porno has changed over the last twenty years (sigh!!!)."
Yes, it's sad isn't it?
Officer Dibble
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Speaking of calibre of models though - you don't get many better than Nikki Anderson who was the star of many of these films. I actually bought the original on Soho many years ago - one of those you get sans cover and details - on the basis of it having the beautiful and elegant Nikki in (stuff with her in was harder to get then without access to the net) - imagine my dissapointment when I saw what they put her poor ass through.
No - not a turn on at all!
No - not a turn on at all!
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Yeah, I have noticed some of the European quality models moving in that unfortunate direction. But it's down to the all-pervading influences emanating from the States. It's seeped over here, and now it's undermining that last bastion of quality (tasteful) porn, Europe. It becomes received wisdom - it's happening in all the other big films from the States and all the other girls/producers are doing it, so it must be the norm, the accepted standard. Most people tend to go with the flow.
When I was talking about quality models here I was thinking about Adele Stephens, Teresa May, Louise Hodges and similar. If you suggested anything like that to them, Teresa would be liable to slap you across the chops and Adele would simply not deign to acknowledge your existence. They consider themselves way above any of that kind of stuff, which gives them an air of mystique, glamour and class. That, along with their looks of course, makes them aspirational to a large proportion of adult movie fans.
Officer Dibble
When I was talking about quality models here I was thinking about Adele Stephens, Teresa May, Louise Hodges and similar. If you suggested anything like that to them, Teresa would be liable to slap you across the chops and Adele would simply not deign to acknowledge your existence. They consider themselves way above any of that kind of stuff, which gives them an air of mystique, glamour and class. That, along with their looks of course, makes them aspirational to a large proportion of adult movie fans.
Officer Dibble
Re: Gapers
Officer Dibble wrote:
>"Why is there such a craze these days about gaping holes in films."
>There isn't - excpet amongst the people who make those films.
right, so they just keep making them to appease themselves? sorry but with the huge amount of porn being produced all over the world if people don't want to watch 'gaping' then they have many other titles to choose from. The fact that people keep making more and more of these movies suggests that there is a huge market for it. Maybe not here, agreed, but in europe and the us for sure.
> Yeah, I have noticed some of the European quality models moving
> in that unfortunate direction. But it's down to the
> all-pervading influences emanating from the States.
What a narrow minded view in this thread, if you don't like it then don't watch. I like euro angels hardball, a series which features many many gapes. Just because I like it doesn't mean my taste in porn is any more 'unfortunate' than yours.
Also, you fail to realise that perhaps some of the girls that feature in these movies may actually enjoy such things.
Take a look at Bella Donna's girl-girl movies, which she directs. Lots of anal, a2m and gaping.
I dunno, I don't like pissing movies, which lots of "European quality models" seem to do, along with lots of girl here. You could quite easily argue, which is more degrading, a gaping asshole(which is often unavoidable in anal scenes) or a woman getting covered in bodily waste. All I'm saying is I don't think you should be putting down a particular sex act because you don't like it, or find it "unfortunate". Many people would argue that any sexual act caught on camera is "unfortunate"....
regards
>"Why is there such a craze these days about gaping holes in films."
>There isn't - excpet amongst the people who make those films.
right, so they just keep making them to appease themselves? sorry but with the huge amount of porn being produced all over the world if people don't want to watch 'gaping' then they have many other titles to choose from. The fact that people keep making more and more of these movies suggests that there is a huge market for it. Maybe not here, agreed, but in europe and the us for sure.
> Yeah, I have noticed some of the European quality models moving
> in that unfortunate direction. But it's down to the
> all-pervading influences emanating from the States.
What a narrow minded view in this thread, if you don't like it then don't watch. I like euro angels hardball, a series which features many many gapes. Just because I like it doesn't mean my taste in porn is any more 'unfortunate' than yours.
Also, you fail to realise that perhaps some of the girls that feature in these movies may actually enjoy such things.
Take a look at Bella Donna's girl-girl movies, which she directs. Lots of anal, a2m and gaping.
I dunno, I don't like pissing movies, which lots of "European quality models" seem to do, along with lots of girl here. You could quite easily argue, which is more degrading, a gaping asshole(which is often unavoidable in anal scenes) or a woman getting covered in bodily waste. All I'm saying is I don't think you should be putting down a particular sex act because you don't like it, or find it "unfortunate". Many people would argue that any sexual act caught on camera is "unfortunate"....
regards
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Pianaman wrote:
> not to mention damaging.
How is it damaging? It can be no more damaging than anal sex itself.
> not to mention damaging.
How is it damaging? It can be no more damaging than anal sex itself.
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Re: Gapers
">"Why is there such a craze these days about gaping holes in films."
>There isn't - excpet amongst the people who make those films.
right, so they just keep making them to appease themselves?"
Sadly, I fear that may increasingly be the case. ?Gapers? hey? It's hardly a mainstream interest, is it? The way I see it is that the people who seem to be getting into the making of porn nowadays are odd, mildly pervy sorts who see this biz as a self financing, no-shame, way of indulging their naff sleazy appetites for crap birds and yucky pseudo-sexual acts. In my day most people in the biz had the most wholesome and honourable of intentions - simply to make lots of luverly loot! We were ordinary geezers of the same mind as Joe Average - consequently, we made and punted movies that would appeal to ordinary geezers, like us. There was no shitting, pissing, double DP, ATM, bukakke, cream pie, gaping and strangling bollocks. Ordinary geezers were quite content to see reasonably attractive people fucking and sucking (yes, I know it sounds incredible today, but it's true).
Unfortunately, today there's not much dough in the biz. So, you have to question the motives of those that wish to get on the porn bandwagon. If they're not there for the money, are they just in it to shag chav birds? Or maybe to indulge their passion for 'gapers', etc. A passion that (quiet understandably) their wives or girlfriends might not whish to share?
?Just because I like it doesn't mean my taste in porn is any more 'unfortunate' than yours.?
Hey, some people?s tastes in porn are ?unfortunate?, lets? not make any bones about it. Strangling, choking, shitting, pissing, shagging dogs, cats, lamas, or kiddy winkies. It's just a question of where you draw the line.
?Also, you fail to realise that perhaps some of the girls that feature in these movies may actually enjoy such things.?
Not at all, I?m sure some do.
All I'm saying is I don't think you should be putting down a particular sex act because you don't like it, or find it "unfortunate".
Don?t you think there should be any standards of decency? That, maybe, anything should go? If we remove all aesthetic, cultural and sexual boundaries, won?t our society become decadent? Won?t it then start to decline? Isn?t it partly the shared values, decency and standards of conduct that define a civilization? I believe there are limits to saying ?each to his own?. I think we must turn our noses up at lama shagging, turd eating, and abusing women of low self-esteem, because ultimately, it degrades us all.
Hey, I?m certainly not saying ?gapers? and related fringe interests should be banned. Like you pointed out, it?s probably not causing anyone any real physical harm, and I understand, that if ya? gotta do it, ya? gotta do it. All I?m saying is that it?s valid and necessary for those with ?ordinary, mainstream? sexual appetites to freely turn their noses up at it, while still respecting the freedom of those that feel so inclined.
Officer Dibble
>There isn't - excpet amongst the people who make those films.
right, so they just keep making them to appease themselves?"
Sadly, I fear that may increasingly be the case. ?Gapers? hey? It's hardly a mainstream interest, is it? The way I see it is that the people who seem to be getting into the making of porn nowadays are odd, mildly pervy sorts who see this biz as a self financing, no-shame, way of indulging their naff sleazy appetites for crap birds and yucky pseudo-sexual acts. In my day most people in the biz had the most wholesome and honourable of intentions - simply to make lots of luverly loot! We were ordinary geezers of the same mind as Joe Average - consequently, we made and punted movies that would appeal to ordinary geezers, like us. There was no shitting, pissing, double DP, ATM, bukakke, cream pie, gaping and strangling bollocks. Ordinary geezers were quite content to see reasonably attractive people fucking and sucking (yes, I know it sounds incredible today, but it's true).
Unfortunately, today there's not much dough in the biz. So, you have to question the motives of those that wish to get on the porn bandwagon. If they're not there for the money, are they just in it to shag chav birds? Or maybe to indulge their passion for 'gapers', etc. A passion that (quiet understandably) their wives or girlfriends might not whish to share?
?Just because I like it doesn't mean my taste in porn is any more 'unfortunate' than yours.?
Hey, some people?s tastes in porn are ?unfortunate?, lets? not make any bones about it. Strangling, choking, shitting, pissing, shagging dogs, cats, lamas, or kiddy winkies. It's just a question of where you draw the line.
?Also, you fail to realise that perhaps some of the girls that feature in these movies may actually enjoy such things.?
Not at all, I?m sure some do.
All I'm saying is I don't think you should be putting down a particular sex act because you don't like it, or find it "unfortunate".
Don?t you think there should be any standards of decency? That, maybe, anything should go? If we remove all aesthetic, cultural and sexual boundaries, won?t our society become decadent? Won?t it then start to decline? Isn?t it partly the shared values, decency and standards of conduct that define a civilization? I believe there are limits to saying ?each to his own?. I think we must turn our noses up at lama shagging, turd eating, and abusing women of low self-esteem, because ultimately, it degrades us all.
Hey, I?m certainly not saying ?gapers? and related fringe interests should be banned. Like you pointed out, it?s probably not causing anyone any real physical harm, and I understand, that if ya? gotta do it, ya? gotta do it. All I?m saying is that it?s valid and necessary for those with ?ordinary, mainstream? sexual appetites to freely turn their noses up at it, while still respecting the freedom of those that feel so inclined.
Officer Dibble
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"odd, mildly pervy sorts who see this biz as a self financing, no-shame, way of indulging their naff sleazy appetites...shitting, pissing, double DP, ATM, bukakke, cream pie, gaping and strangling bollocks...Strangling, choking, shitting, pissing, shagging dogs, cats, lamas, or kiddy winkies"
Sounds like the ingredients of a top movie to me.
Sounds like the ingredients of a top movie to me.
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Officer Dibble wrote:
> Unfortunately, today there's not much dough in the biz. So, you
> have to question the motives of those that wish to get on the
> porn bandwagon.
Jeez, have you heard yourself. Who are you speaking for? There are people making millions of dollars promoting, producing and selling the kind of pornography you say is "unfortunate". Honestly, to say "there's not much money in the biz" is ludicrous.
Given that the type of porn we're talking about here is either American, or European you cannot introduce the argument of their not being much money in the biz, that may well be true for certain elements of the UK industry but then again, not all. And the UK is hardly the pioneering country of Gaping anal and A2M.
> If they're not there for the money, are they
> just in it to shag chav birds? Or maybe to indulge their
> passion for 'gapers', etc. A passion that (quiet
> understandably) their wives or girlfriends might not whish to
> share?
This argument seems to me to be your way of justifying it's mere existence, and you won't admit the fact that it exists because people actually want to see it and keep buying it.
> “Just because I like it doesn't mean my taste in porn is any
> more 'unfortunate' than yours.”
>
> Hey, some people’s tastes in porn are ‘unfortunate’, lets’ not
> make any bones about it. Strangling, choking, shitting,
> pissing, shagging dogs, cats, lamas, or kiddy winkies. It's
> just a question of where you draw the line.
Why are you even mentioning shitting, choking, strangling in the same sentence? Why not introduce rape aswell? The topic of discussion was gaping anal. Something I personally find no more or less tasteless than a girl taking a facial.
What you find distasteful, another person may not. I was reading a thread similar to this morning about anal sex where the OP stated that a dick was not designed to go in the ass. You can make that exact same argument about blowjobs.
> Don’t you think there should be any standards of decency?
And who exactly is to lay down the law? It sounds to me like your idea of tasteful porn would be the kind of pornography made yester year, which is fair enough but you're trying to emforce your standards on everyone else.
There is so much pornography around today which simply rules out the argument that people only watch these kind of movies because peoppe make them. It's simply not true, there's many an alternative.
It seems to me that you don't like the fact that the game has changed and progressed. There still many products out there to suite your tastes, just like everyone elses. I just find it wrong that you wish to destroy the kind of pornography you don't care for.
> Unfortunately, today there's not much dough in the biz. So, you
> have to question the motives of those that wish to get on the
> porn bandwagon.
Jeez, have you heard yourself. Who are you speaking for? There are people making millions of dollars promoting, producing and selling the kind of pornography you say is "unfortunate". Honestly, to say "there's not much money in the biz" is ludicrous.
Given that the type of porn we're talking about here is either American, or European you cannot introduce the argument of their not being much money in the biz, that may well be true for certain elements of the UK industry but then again, not all. And the UK is hardly the pioneering country of Gaping anal and A2M.
> If they're not there for the money, are they
> just in it to shag chav birds? Or maybe to indulge their
> passion for 'gapers', etc. A passion that (quiet
> understandably) their wives or girlfriends might not whish to
> share?
This argument seems to me to be your way of justifying it's mere existence, and you won't admit the fact that it exists because people actually want to see it and keep buying it.
> “Just because I like it doesn't mean my taste in porn is any
> more 'unfortunate' than yours.”
>
> Hey, some people’s tastes in porn are ‘unfortunate’, lets’ not
> make any bones about it. Strangling, choking, shitting,
> pissing, shagging dogs, cats, lamas, or kiddy winkies. It's
> just a question of where you draw the line.
Why are you even mentioning shitting, choking, strangling in the same sentence? Why not introduce rape aswell? The topic of discussion was gaping anal. Something I personally find no more or less tasteless than a girl taking a facial.
What you find distasteful, another person may not. I was reading a thread similar to this morning about anal sex where the OP stated that a dick was not designed to go in the ass. You can make that exact same argument about blowjobs.
> Don’t you think there should be any standards of decency?
And who exactly is to lay down the law? It sounds to me like your idea of tasteful porn would be the kind of pornography made yester year, which is fair enough but you're trying to emforce your standards on everyone else.
There is so much pornography around today which simply rules out the argument that people only watch these kind of movies because peoppe make them. It's simply not true, there's many an alternative.
It seems to me that you don't like the fact that the game has changed and progressed. There still many products out there to suite your tastes, just like everyone elses. I just find it wrong that you wish to destroy the kind of pornography you don't care for.