How common are fake certs?

[one eyed jack]

Hi Big Al. yes we would like it vedery much if you were to contribute on our forums.

I see nothing wrong with using the general forum as posting a topic there would easily elicit a response from a producer or two (probably me)

The producers forum is actually funded by subcriptions from the actual members and many wouldnt even post for the fear of being drawn into the conflict they witness with the likes of me.

However, we have set up a new forum called "the green room", again this is password protected and was set up for non members and outisde parties to discuss various things such as projects to inform the producing community. Anyone interested need only apply for a password as long as you have something case sensitive you wish to discuss with producers of UKAP, whether they be members or non members.

Do not confuse this with discussing things on the general forum. We understand some people prefer anonymity from public forums and given your knowledge I would suggest using the general forum as this is open to everybody, fans, producers amateur or professional.

Its just another forum where we dont have to do our dirty laundry in public really.

[bigAl]

Thanks OEJ I'll give it a look.

I'm not intending to start debates; but happy to comment where I can provide input that utilises my business knowledge.

[sensi]

Hi guys!

Just thought i needed to get on here & voice my opinion, which is feeling real strong right now!!!!!
Imagine this for a moment people!
Picture someone, anybody, a normal civilian, male or female that wants to get into the industry!
This person somhow gets the contact details of someone already in the industry that can sort them out with a fake cert!
This male or female is carrying a nasty secret though! they have AIDS, now they also have a fake cert!!!!!
Providing they get booked, this is their ticket to work along side me, my friends & any other performers out there!
THATS A FUCKING SCARY THOUGHT DONT YOU THINK!!!!!

But definatly somthing that could happen!
Real soon if we're not carefull!

Would anyone except an apology of "it was a mistake" then!
I dont think so, especially if you were a performer that had now caught AIDS!

When did it become ok to FAKE YOUR CERT!!!!!

Well as far as im concerned, ITS NOT OK & it definatly aint A MISTAKE!

Its easy for any producer to forgive you conjita, their not at risk of catching anything are they, but me, im not so forgiving!
You put me, my friends & my fellow performers at risk, thats unforgivable!!!!!
You didnt plan to stop really did you!!!!!
A person you had asked if they wanted a fake cert, said no & notified a producer, who then let me & Amber know & we let someone at UKAP know!
So in all fairness, when you realised that you had been caught out, thats the only reason you decided to come forward!
If that hadn't of happend, you still would be working on FAKE CERTS, wouldnt you!
Why would you stop!!!!!
I suppose if you had of stopped, you proberly would of spilled the beans on all those that you know are involved, cause you would of felt guilty & ashamed of what was happening in the industry!
Yeah right!!!!!
You say you never had anything, but some people that worked on productions when you was present came down with somthing & their fingers are pointing in your direction!
Sure they cant pinpoint anything to you, they could never prove it, thats hard enough to do at anytime in this industry even if you did have a cert, but saying that, its a lot easier to point in the direction of somone that is going out of their way not to get tested regulary like everybody else!

I myself contacted you to do some content, im sooooo happy that it never happed now, cause let me tell you, if i had been one of the people that had caught somthing after been on a production with you & i found out what i now know!
I would be going to the POLICE!
A crime has been commited & is still been commited!

If conjita really wants to do the right thing, why not let us performers/producers know who else is involved, right here right now!
We in the industry have a right to know that this is going on & who else is involved!
It dont matter where this information is posted, just as long as it is & everyone one of us performers & producers gets the OPTION of working with these SICK BARSTARDS!
Everyone wants to know if they have a peodafile, rapist, murderer etc living on their street cause they want to feel protected & safe, well this is no different!
Us performers, well the ones that actually make the time to go pay for a test want to feel as safe as is possible in this industry!

The people that are involved need to be NAMED & SHAMED!
They cant be TRUSTED!
Its said that there is a bunch of people doing it in the industry!
Still working along side all of us!
So basically we're saying its ok for them to do this, when they dont get NAMED & SHAMED!
Maybe this isn't the right place to post their names, i know this is a public forum, but i dont care!
If posting them up on the UKAP forum is better, it should be done!
I urge any performer/producer that directly knows of somone that is faking their test, to let the rest of us know, so we can protect ourselves from them!
We have a duty to look out for eachother!

They are not needed in this industry!!!!!
Us as performers really need to push for this online certs!
Its the way forward, at the moment we are lucky, but how long will that last!!!!
IF EVER THERE WAS A TIME ITS NOW!!!!

Sensi

[videokim]

Since certs first came in people have faked them so thats why we have always used condoms as well. Certs are not worth the paper they are written on as they are only safe on the day of the test, certs & condoms go together like seat belts & airbags & are there for your safety so use them.
We put a thread on a while back about the use of antibiotics & other drugs that can mask certs up to a month & surprise surprise it went quite with no people adding to the thread, this made us think do these private clinics care if they are earning a good crust out of people. NHS may be long winded but they refuse to test you if you have been on certain drugs & yes again it depends on the person being honest with them. Taking antibiotics before tests is just another way of faking certs as serious std's will show up blank & you are just as guilty as having fake certs. Our GUM clinic as an Essex council web-site being launched in September & it would be great if this forum could give them a link.

John

[videokim]

You'll find a large percentage escorting but even the escorts are not silly enough to do this bareback & if you know these girls do this let others know so they can be black listed. lots & lots of models escort to suppliment their income but all the girls i know have regular certs & always use condoms. People in the industry can be naive & blame the obvious e.g. escorts when its the industry itself thats the shambles not them.
Escorts,film actresses etc all have sex for money, the problem is it safe sex they have & if not address that fact straight away before it causes harm.

John

[one eyed jack]

Its not ok to lwet off people faking their certs but the person who has come forward has not even worked for any producer inside UKAP and to be honest has worked for Adult Live and they have remained tight lipped on this situation.

The two producers who have applauded Conhitas honesty are not even members of UKAP.

I have applauded her honesty (and to be honest I speak for myself and not for the rest of UKAP who quite rightly reserve their own right to not get involved for obvious reasons they do not have intimate knowledge other than thrid party advice to go on) but it really is up to the performing community if they want to work with her or not.

it isnt really down to an association to crucify her, especially since we have no real physical evidence other than her confession to go on.

Adult Live are privvy to this information and to be honest this affects those who worked for them.

We felt it was important to name the person but she cooperated and beat us to the post. We cant ban someone who doesnt work for us because she will get work outside the association anyway.

[one eyed jack]

Kim, UKAP will give them a link.

Why not share your advice on the UKAP forum as well Kim, You seem to feel strongly about these matters.

i would hate to think its because like many others you see us the same as they do and you know someof the producers there are well intentioned (my self aside of course)

Why people fear a producers association I dont know.

You speak of producers getting together for a love in, a hug whatever...Well show us some of that love! We want it gawdammit! LOL

As i said earlier we've opened up a greenroom to discuss this and more with non mmebers. take advantage of it.

All this has really done is give a load of people here some good old fashioned entertainment.

I'm still not convinced that discussing things like this on here is appropriate to the fans unless they can help and in truth, so far opinions and suggestions have been going over really old ground.

[one eyed jack]

Sensi post echoes the voices of the silent masses of those who share the same view. i think he should be acknowledged for speaking up on this and to be honest it should come from the performing community as they are the ones that have to work with others and take the risks.

I think the producers who applauded Conchitas confession are not fully aware of the circumstances and only commented on what was before them at the time.

[Ron T. Storm]

Right anyone who fakes their certs is basically... a cunt.

This fucks up everyone's certs. Might as well go bareback and not give a shit.

Fuck me I have spent so much money on getting certs for certain individuals to get fake certs is a right fucking liberty.

Lets get back to the idea of proven certs online....

I don't give a fucking monkeys bollock if certain individuals are worried by having their details on file and the security implications... think they have been watching too many reruns of the X Files and besides who gives a fuck about adult performers... CIA and FBI got a lot more on their plates right now.

Get online certification sorted and lets catch up with Amrica...

PS Have a moan and groan Mr JimSlip and others. I am up to being certed online... and who fucking cares if the info goes government AWOL. Its not like we are of importance in the scheme of things. Health over rides all.

Stormchild69