HIV spread and the brutalising of women.

[David Lever]

Unfortunately, there is a link between, the Yanks bombing Iraqis and otherwise extending their domination on the world, and the brutalising and abuse of women..........................its the DOLLAR! Can you tell me that if it was legal to say let 2 pschopaths mutilate and rape a girl for a TV show, a Yank wouldn't make it, under the banner of Freedom of Expression?

[David Lever]

Im surprised at the sympathetic hearing you give kind 'ol Max, that loveable Stetson wearing, "artist". I suppose by giving him the mantel of "artist" and defending his "Freedom of Expression", it somehow forgives him for the fact he is clearly a rabid mysogonist. What about the freedom of expression for all the women who may have been raped, beaten or otherwise abused by men who having seen films like his, feel that this kind of behaviour is validated, because, "Its on the telly" and girls "Like a bit of rough sex".
If not wishing women to be depicted in this light makes me an "Extreme right-winger", then so be it.

[David Lever]

There seem to be some people who think I disapprove of the filming of anal sex. I am talking about the brutal act of anal sex. That is to say there is a big difference between allowing a girl herself to gradually get used to a dick being up her arse and 2 dumb studs shoving their dicks up as hard as they possibly can, obviously this would be much more like to cause a tear and therefore is much more danderous.

[Ben Dover]

Just for your info; Max Hardcore [dontcha just luv him?] is finding a lot of stores in the US won't stock his line. He already lost his latest distributor, he's had about half a dozen previously, and they all got to the point where they just didn't want to risk distributing his line for the reasons we are all familiar with. In his defence [difficult I know, since the guy is one of the more objectionable individuals in the business] I have spoken to several girls who have worked with him and loved it. There is no point pretending otherwise. Some girls do like that kind of thing. Most of his dealings are now internet based I believe, because he's become 'too hot to handle'. I read an interview with him about 2 years ago when he seemed to be admitting that he would have to 'tone down' his act in order to continue in the mainstream adult business. I don't know if this happened. I assume not. I can't watch his stuff myself. If I want to see a girl throwing up, I'll go to Canvey Island on a Saturday night. With regard to Rob Black; [a bigger tosser you will NEVER meet] He's gone bust, and is very likely to be going to jail real soon, something to do with cutting someone's finger off I believe, nothing to do with porn.

[Ben Dover]

Mike, I love you man. I have a feeling that the 'extreme left' are not particularly keen on porn either! I'm probably what most people would call an extreme right winger, and I'm in the porn business. What does that mean then?

[David Lever]

Hi Ben how are you? I'm not moralising about the content of films like his, more by the example they set to all the sick, psychotic wankers that are out there, that are influenced directly. If his work was depicted in the Tate gallery only to be viewed by a handful of Toffs, he'd probably be hailed as a genius. In fact I think I might submit a work myself, maybe an effigy of a girl, with a dick in her mouth and two in her arse, the whole work covered in vomit and call it "Girl Who Likes A Bit of Rough". Presented in a glass case.
OK that's it, no more porn for me, I'm digging out my beret and smock and becoming an artist, then maybe i'll make some money.

[eroticartist]

Okay Ben you have got a point there about th extreme left. The true polarities of the political spectrum are authoritarianism and liberterianism. Both you and I are libertarians. I doubt if you are on the extreme right and I can't see you wearing jackboots and shouting Seig Heil! The libertarian right and left meet and both believe in Freedom and that's what is important.

Hope you are well

Mike

[eroticartist]

Please stop generalising about the American people as such. There are many Americans who disapprove of state policies. Mike

[woodgnome]

discussions about american foreign policy are best conducted next door - not on this forum, thanx.

[Ben Dover]

I guess you're right there. I suppose I am a Libertarian. Good call.