The only thing I would add to the debate is that I have seen Jordan interviewed many times and while she doesn't always come across well, she's far from the brainless slapper she is portrayed as being in the tabloids.
Questions though. Why won't she show her nipples any more? One of the Sundays did a "Would you strip for a million?" article and her agent was wary about nipples. Have they been totally destroyed by surgery and scarred badly?
jordan home movie
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alec
Re: jordan home movie
A quote from the FAQ - and it's been updated BTW so please read it -
"... the posting of messages containing personal abuse or other inflammatory remarks will not be tolerated under any circumstances and such posts will be removed."
The posts of hmmm and Matt could be argued to have come into this category, though Matt's may have been just a case of being ambiguous - perhaps he meant that models who pose for still photographs don't need personality (not that they didn't have any). This is a very dubious generalisation, but not necessarily insulting, though capable of being interpreted that way. Anyway Rebekah has effectively demolished the argument in her reply.
But please note that posts which do nothing other than insult models will be deleted. So if the intention is abuse, don't bother. If it is not, choose your words with greater care.
Plus since Jordan has not made any commercial adult films she is off-topic.
"... the posting of messages containing personal abuse or other inflammatory remarks will not be tolerated under any circumstances and such posts will be removed."
The posts of hmmm and Matt could be argued to have come into this category, though Matt's may have been just a case of being ambiguous - perhaps he meant that models who pose for still photographs don't need personality (not that they didn't have any). This is a very dubious generalisation, but not necessarily insulting, though capable of being interpreted that way. Anyway Rebekah has effectively demolished the argument in her reply.
But please note that posts which do nothing other than insult models will be deleted. So if the intention is abuse, don't bother. If it is not, choose your words with greater care.
Plus since Jordan has not made any commercial adult films she is off-topic.
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rebekah
Re: Charming indeed !
i think i failed to get across what i meant,
so here goes basically i dont have any problem whatsoever with peoples opinions on a individual, what is someones pleasure is anothers poison, no-one likes everyone, otherwise life would be pointless however i found it unfair that all girls in the industry were being tarred with the same charmless, brainless image. as matt tried to do i felt (just my take on it)
and before you get all shitty hmmm, i may agree with your comments about her or i may not, who knows.
so here goes basically i dont have any problem whatsoever with peoples opinions on a individual, what is someones pleasure is anothers poison, no-one likes everyone, otherwise life would be pointless however i found it unfair that all girls in the industry were being tarred with the same charmless, brainless image. as matt tried to do i felt (just my take on it)
and before you get all shitty hmmm, i may agree with your comments about her or i may not, who knows.
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Joe
Re: jordan home movie
I didn't know she had a home video, Where can it be found? Any1 got a copy?
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Matt
Re: charming
Rebekah, sorry to have offended you. Your post was very revealing. However, I do want to clear up one thing I said. You'll have to forgive me for not clarifying this point...
'Most of the porn girls don't have charm'. What I meant by this (and would have re-phrased if written again) is that charm is not required for the job. It's a definite bonus if you have it, but you don't have to have it.
You talk about me as if I had singled you out personally. The impression I get is that you feel you are in a job where you are not being given full credit for the person you are and that your perceptions of those who enjoy your work are that we do not acknowledge that there is more to you then the flesh we see on screen.
You suggest I am ignorant. You suggest you ("and many others") have more qualifications, charm and brain power then I could ever have, presuming that these are things I consider important. You are mistaken (I don't think they're all that) and I don't really know where the outburst came from, but if you wish to use me as a vent for your personal frustrations about the respect as a person you feel you should get but don't always get, thats perfectly fine by me.
At the risk of being contentious, when I am enjoying watching your work, at the point of orgasm, what is going through my mind is not the potential amount of qualifications you might have.
And just a closing note: I always tend to become defensive when people start talking about 'we'. There is no 'we'. There is you. That's it. I'm sure other performers can speak for themselves.
Again, sorry you were upset by what I wrote, but like I said, my own personal opinion is that intelligence and charm are not pre-requisites for being in the industry. They are a bonus. Thats not to say you don't have any though, so please don't suggest that I am saying what I am not saying.
'Most of the porn girls don't have charm'. What I meant by this (and would have re-phrased if written again) is that charm is not required for the job. It's a definite bonus if you have it, but you don't have to have it.
You talk about me as if I had singled you out personally. The impression I get is that you feel you are in a job where you are not being given full credit for the person you are and that your perceptions of those who enjoy your work are that we do not acknowledge that there is more to you then the flesh we see on screen.
You suggest I am ignorant. You suggest you ("and many others") have more qualifications, charm and brain power then I could ever have, presuming that these are things I consider important. You are mistaken (I don't think they're all that) and I don't really know where the outburst came from, but if you wish to use me as a vent for your personal frustrations about the respect as a person you feel you should get but don't always get, thats perfectly fine by me.
At the risk of being contentious, when I am enjoying watching your work, at the point of orgasm, what is going through my mind is not the potential amount of qualifications you might have.
And just a closing note: I always tend to become defensive when people start talking about 'we'. There is no 'we'. There is you. That's it. I'm sure other performers can speak for themselves.
Again, sorry you were upset by what I wrote, but like I said, my own personal opinion is that intelligence and charm are not pre-requisites for being in the industry. They are a bonus. Thats not to say you don't have any though, so please don't suggest that I am saying what I am not saying.
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Matt
Re: jordan home movie
Alec,
My comments are NEVER intended to be personally insulting or upsetting to ANYONE. I have apologised to Rebekkah (privately and on the board) and do so now to any other performers who may have been upset by what I wrote.
Whether Rebekkah 'demolished' my argument is debateable, but I have replied to that to help clarify the point.
Trouble is, whenever anything starts of on a negative note, its hard work to get anything positve out of it sometimes. I think the current discussion about the job and necessities of being a 'porn star' is interesting stuff though.
Matt.
My comments are NEVER intended to be personally insulting or upsetting to ANYONE. I have apologised to Rebekkah (privately and on the board) and do so now to any other performers who may have been upset by what I wrote.
Whether Rebekkah 'demolished' my argument is debateable, but I have replied to that to help clarify the point.
Trouble is, whenever anything starts of on a negative note, its hard work to get anything positve out of it sometimes. I think the current discussion about the job and necessities of being a 'porn star' is interesting stuff though.
Matt.
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Matt
Re: charming
Furthermore, I was actually DISAGREEING with the original comments about Jordan being charmless!! She doesn't have charm in as much as the charm one would have if she was closer to the oringator's age but she has the kind of charm and drive and enthusiasm (what some call arrogance) that is fantastic to see in someone her age.
In that sense, I find her extremely charming. Maybe we should all have clarified what we meant by charm before things got heated.
Oh, the joys of being able to look back on things and doing them again differently if we had the chance.
In that sense, I find her extremely charming. Maybe we should all have clarified what we meant by charm before things got heated.
Oh, the joys of being able to look back on things and doing them again differently if we had the chance.
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Caractacus
Re: jordan home movie
It might be best that we call a halt to this thread given the negative aspects of it (to which, I admit, I contributed; sorry!), the vehemence of some of the posts and, as Alec pointed out, that it's off topic. You just never know how much these things tend to snowball when you start them.