Safety For Models and Producers

[George699]

Hello,
On this business of no valid certs that is only the tip of the iceberg.
To make the industry safe the following needs to happen.
1) The studs should stop working as escorts as well; particularly gay escorts and those who do should never have unprotected sex with a client.
2) The girls who escort should also stop unprotected sex with clients
3) Purestorm, this site provides too many escorts, the owners will bar anyone they catch, however the sheer weight of numbers means this is almost impossible to catch everyone. To put things in perspective, I am an amateur tog; this year I have shot 14 models 8 of whom are adult and 6 straight glamour. Like a lot of other togs I like the extras and out of 14 models 10 offered more at prices from ?50 to ?150. However of these 10 models 1 adult and 3 glamour models left the decision as to whether I used a condom to me. This is dangerous and could spread disease rapidly. I advised the girls to change but the argument was I looked safe and a lot of the guys would only take the offer up if it was without.
4) Producers should understand the girls are there to work for them, not shag with them
5) Party girls should take all protection possible, there are parties in central London which are with protection only and are about as safe as can be expected. However as has been mentioned in Dagenham there are bareback events, to this add Chiswick and the problem there is that condoms are the guys choice, the pay may be greater, guys paying ?200 to attend but so are the risks and the well-known names who attend as party girls should consider the risks.
6) Stag events, these can be a lot of fun, however the girl who does the blue show should make sure the guys is wrapped up, last one I attended it was bareback, also while contact is expected, the girls who work these events should check the guys fingers for cuts before they let them stick them in.
7) Private parties 1 girl and several guys again are fun, but just because the guy has a nice house does not mean that he should not use condoms.
8) Legacy issues, in the day when Bluebird shot B/G a lot of the studs were also active with the Channel girls in private, fine but if bringing someone from the outside into your world make sure they are tested for everyone?s safety.
9) Babe TV Girls who work as models and escort UTR should not get involved with the adult side of the business, there are various escort sites listing these girls and just because a guy books you 3 times , bareback does not become a safe option.
10) Girls your partner may be important to you but before having unprotected sex with him , please get him tested , same for the studs and two way open relationships should never be considered.
11) Girls who do the Bukkake parties should be tested after each event and producers should exercise caution when booking these girls.
This business can be a lot of fun, yes girls do offer extras and guys take them up, but is common sense and condoms are used then the risks will be minimised and things will carry on as before with little risk to anyone

George

[one eyed jack]

We been saying all this for years.

Fell on deaf ears back then too

No one has commented on UKAPs shit in proactivity in the health area because the business has changed dramatically and people are running what is left of it into the ground.

Adult Work and Clips4Sale and webcamming is the way forward...No one bothers to get tests done anymore because they work with friends who dont look like they have STD's !laugh!

You can hear more about this here

[cockneygeezer2009]

Well if everyone stuck to George 999 rules it would be great but few do. There will always be risks in doing bareback porn but there is also risks in crossing the road. If people in the adult industry deem the risks are too great they will leave the industry and many have done so.

If you really don't want to take any risks with your sexual health then give up sex indefinitely otherwise you are taking unnecessary risks.

[frankthring]

While I respect your desire, George, to make sure everyone has protected sex, I think you are wishing for the moon. Sex industry performers like sex and the money that goes with it, they always downplay or forget the health risks. You admit, very honestly I think, that with the girls you shoot you also want to fuck them and often do - then lament those that offer to screw you unprotected.
Porn models are all slightly barmy in their attitudes to fucking. Only today I shot a lovely Russian 18 year old who told me her only no-no was old guys -
"anyone over 35 ughh" she told me (thus ruling me out even for a BJ). She then told me that days earlier she had happily worked with Rocco and Christophe including double anal. When I pointed out that both men are 49 yrs old she was completely non-plussed.
Shagging as escorts, shagging on camera, with condom or without, the girls will go on doing IT their way !!

[mybeautifultease]

I agree with most of what George says.

There should be standardised set of rules that models should help to enforce on sets. the power of enforcement is strictly down to models, if they refuse to work on a set that doesn't meet their rules then producers would stick to them.

Also, is it just me who finds it completely unprofessional of a) the model offering extras in the first place and b) the producer taking them up on the offer!

We can't complain about models acting unprofessionally then take them up on an offer for casual sex (with or without a condom)!

[Nob3y]

I would love this to come into force but....
Greed comes along and the fact that some girls and togs will always take risks for that extra bit of dosh.
Also too many girls are doing parties,privates,escorting to make up for the lack of modelling work,its not like the days a few years ago where the model would work hard to keep those shoots coming in. If the girl is up for it there is a lot to keep the dosh coming in apart from just modelling.
Not saying all those girl who do the parties etc are all dodgy but its extra temptation is they are willing to take a few risks for a few extra quid.

Sorry to say it but it seems some do need to catch something in order for this to hit home and it would really be a shame as it could have been avoided.

[videokim]

When we pushed for condoms as standard most the industry unprofessionally said no without even taking it to vote, films & how they sell always come before model health for the producers which is a fact of the job we are in.

99% of models work with certs as standard & like the odd dodgy producers you will find some models flaunting the basic health rules, nothing has changed in conditions to what it was a few years ago except for the witch hunts & name calling which as become a common thing on here causing an even bigger void with models.

We had well known producer saying they would take it underground & shoot porn condom less if it was mandatory about condoms yet they slate others...pot kettle black comes to mind guys.

New producers/models don't have a clue on what health rules we have at present but they toe the line when told, a new set of rules should be wrote, voted upon & used as standard for everyone in the industry.

Don't give models details on private clinics charging obscene fee's but instead tell them where to get tested for a sensible fee that they can afford & that can provide written certs, a new model just starting out won't have a pot to piss in so if they can't afford the rip off clinic's prices & might just leave it.
Making it clear that tests can be done from as little as ?10 will change this, the sites available don't provide these details so they might as well not be there.

[Harry Powell]

Well said George

Its interesting how the previous post that Monty made has been deleted...

With many more people now watching (silently) this post I wonder if the Moderators will be acting so definitively on this one

Perhaps it will take a scandal to bring up safety in the industry

[thebangkokbanger]

I think it was deleted because u were being such a c**t Harry(don't be anonymous who are you?otherwise your opinion is worthless)

[cockneygeezer2009]

"Perhaps it will take a scandal to bring up safety in the industry."

Unfortunately it won't make a blind bit of difference as the risk takers say it won't happen to me. In the porn industry there have been several HIV outbreaks in the USA and STD outbreaks in Europe but irresponsible people still have risky sex.

Celibacy, condoms, certs etc brings down the risk of catching nasty venereal diseases but doesn't eliminate it.