porn world a closed door???

[donnykid]

Evening folks, been reading a post on here and it seems that males have to offer their services for free to get anywhere......I tried for about 4 or 5 years to get any experience and in that time never really got anywhere due to time wasters or the fact everyone seemed to think cos I didnt have any references etc that I was a time waster. Just wondered is it still the case or has things improved??

Steve

[Rico]

Hi mate. My experience (as a producer) is that most producers won't book absolute newbies as all pro shoots have elements like make up artists, locations and booked girls who all have to be paid anyway even if the shoot doesn't work out because the guy fails in some way. Producers are wary of taking a risk on a new guy who (although he may turn up with the best will in the world) may not be able to get it up or cum etc. producers are more likely to go with someone who they know can deliver the goods so to speak, and who the girl knows and so she will also feel more at ease. It is after all usually all about the girl. Having said that however, legends like Tanya Tate regularly hold castings for newbies which, although unpaid, are an ideal way to 'try out' and will look good on the showreel/CV for all other producers to see.

[andy at handiwork]

Cant get the jobs without experience, cant get experience without the jobs. I know a couple of guys who got some cash together, hired a model or two (or three in one case), a studio and me to shoot it, and did their own thing. They then hawked it round the producers; at least they have evidence of getting, and keeping, it up when the pressure was on. One did very well subsequently, though it helped that he really was the dogs bollocks on the day.

[paul jones]

In my various shoots over the past year I have given a number of new guys a chance, but only when I could afford for them to fail.

Of about 10 who have taken advantage of this, only 1 did a good enough job to get to the screen. The rest either didn't get hard, or couldn't keep it that way long enough for a scene.

I got into the biz by finding a girl (Emma Jackson) who wanted to do it. I fucked her for the producer, and it all went well, so he used me again, and again, and then others did.

It's still the best way - find a girl, do the legwork to get the shoots, impress with your abilities.

[donnykid]

cheers for the comments/advice. I have thought of clubbing together with a few others but thats when the timewaters seem to come out the woodwork. I was once booked by a girl to help her do some pics for her website, drove for 90 mins onlt for her to get cold feet......which was when I decided to stick to the day job and keep messing about with bits of wood (no pun intended) but like most blokes I still think I could do it !!! I did ok on film the 1st and last time I had to get it up......a man can dream eh lol

[one eyed jack]

My whole business model is designed for failure which I feature on updates called Pornstar Wannabeez. Thing is back then I paid for the model.

These days, I wont.

However, I will provide the service of filming and editing for free if a newbie is willing to put his own money on the line and hire a girl.

I used to do this with a couiple of guys who have gone onto better things now.

As Rico said, times are too dofficult now to chance money on newbies and no the industry really isnt closed at all.

All you need is a camcorder and the money to go, tests and bam..Youre in! Thats how most of us started but my advice wouldbe...you better have a game plan if you want to make money out of it as there are plenty people enough already doing what you want to do.

[Welshmorph]

"However, I will provide the service of filming and editing for free if a newbie is willing to put his own money on the line and hire a girl."

I've made that offer a few times to guys who've contacted by email. They soon disappear which says to me they aren't serious about the business if they don't think it's worth paying to get them some good stills and video to promote themselves with.

Morph

[TanyaTate]

Thanks Rico for mentioning this... yes I do the Tanya Tate casting couch.

Aimed at new girls & guys who want to get into the industry. You apply, send pics and when I my dates set I choose a small number to come to 'try out' on camera.

I do refer your details to other UK directors if I feel you potential to be a performer.

If you want to apply check out my Tanya Tate Casting Couch Blog Post.

Next shooting in Spring in London. Then possibility of a Scottish tour around July... so watching this space.

Kisses & Licks to you all...Tanya Tate xox

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[pbphotography]

If you want to get work start by making a film yourself with model. this will show investment, commitment, willingness and ability to work.

Once you have made this register on sites. Do a bit free or very low paid work in genre's that you want to work in for the short term to get a portfolio and get references from models and producers.

Then if you are good enough people will hire you.

Once you have done that if you are good and you get good refs then you will be able to charge more.

[pbphotography]

Sorry also meant to say

1. Commission a film of your own films in all of the Genre's that you want to work in so that if a producer is wanting a fetish film and he or she looks at your work and only sees non fetish then he may not look at you.

2. Register on AIR as that is where the best people seem to be.

Also you may find that you prefer producing and go down a different route.