Trainee models Required

[Daz Savage]

We're ALL rolling around on the floor here.
This (and all the responses) are the funniest thing I've read all year!
I thought I'd seen all the lame-arsed scams going but surely this is the best attempt ever.
Can we get some kind of award system going for stuff like this please because it's made my day!

The saddest thing is that I reckon this person actually believes in this and that it's a legitimate request....
Kind of... "I know, I'll buy a camera and get rich doing the porn thing... all I need to do is find trainee models... there must be loads about!"

The saddest thing is that I was talking to the guy who runs The Walpole Group about 10 years ago and he told me a terrible story about a lovely girl who spent a whole year in "training" for this photographer. He continually told her she needed more experience and "training" before she could work properly and actually get paid. Meanwhile he was running fucking TEAMS of men through her and (we were guessing) charging them for it.

Enough to make you cry.

Now I'm not suggesting that the OP here is the same calibre - he doesn't sound half as organized TBH but as Jack mentions... I will also publicly apologize if this is in some way a very badly worded but somehow genuine request and offer of paid work.
But when it comes to grey areas and thin-lines, right now I can't see much ethically between Mr Foxxy and the individual in my anecdote.

I sincerely hope I'm wrong - for all the right reasons.

[justincyder]

Daz

'The saddest thing is that I was talking to the guy who runs The Walpole Group about 10 years ago and he told me a terrible story about a lovely girl who spent a whole year in "training" for this photographer. He continually told her she needed more experience and "training" before she could work properly and actually get paid. Meanwhile he was running fucking TEAMS of men through her and (we were guessing) charging them for it.'

Does he know her still? on a serious note that amounts to statutory rape. ie it would be well worth her persuing it if she still knew the tog etc

[one eyed jack]

Does he know her still? on a serious note that amounts to statutory rape. ie it would be well worth her persuing it if she still knew the tog etc



Unfortunately it sounds a too little too late to prove anything now Justin.

I dont think a lot of people recognise the damage this does in terms of pr when girls encounter this sort of thing.

It leaves the whole industry wide open to scrutiny from our critics which is why bona fide producers should distance themselves from faceless individuals like that.

Thing is, how does a girl differentiate from a good producer and one with dubious motives if she knows nothing about forums like this or UKAP?

Answer: She doesnt so there will be a few more casualties like this

[Love_Byter]

Hi folks, this has certainly been an interesting thread to read, although with potentially sinister overtones.

Maybe the answer to a number of issues is to introduce some sort of official accreditation? Teachers, childminders etc normally have to be vetted before they can practice - why not the same - akin to a porn 'Charter Mark' - if you're a producer etc.? Just as responsible performers get tested and certed each month, why doesn't a producer agree to a CRB check to start with? Maybe there are additional methods that can be put in place that give models and performers the reassurance and confidence that they are dealing with bona fide professionals?

I don't think anybody would disagree with the notion that the industry is often the subject of ridicule or criticism. If the industry started regulating itself more effectively from within, it would perhaps send the message to govt/police/media etc that it's a responsible, legitimate industry that can do without the usual scaremongering.

Name and shames, and warnings about dubious characters, on forums such as BGAFD are an essential step in raising the alarm. But as 'Jack rightly states, what of the performers or newbies who are unaware of these resources?

Whilst it would be great if all performers did their homework or ask for references etc, it's also something that surely the industry itself can do something about. Is this a job that AITA should take on? Or a newly formed organisation that has the credentials, professionalism and repect from everyone in the industry.

Obviously there are a lot of issues raised, and if it acts as a catalyst for some further discussion and practical ideas being bandied about, then that's great.

[pbphotography]

he was offering models earlier on.

[Sarah Kelly]

What makes me laugh (other than OEJ getting rounds in ) is the "must be ,bubbly,fun loving,daring" bit..... oh, and open minded .... I think your drink is safe OEJ! x

[Daz Savage]

So long ago mate... I'm sure that you're right about getting the law involved in something like this but it would be for the girl to pursue.
It's just such a shame that there are people around who do stuff like that.

[dannymca21]

Ive sent you an email Mack, hope to hear from you soon.

Cheers Dan
danny_mc15@hotmail.com

[andy at handiwork]

Still no reaction from bluefoxproductions yet. Oh well, we'll just have to keep thinking the worst about them.

[one eyed jack]

Love Byter wrote:

Maybe the answer to a number of issues is to introduce some sort of official accreditation? Teachers, childminders etc normally have to be vetted before they can practice - why not the same - akin to a porn 'Charter Mark'

Oh no we cant have anyhting like that because there are those who really dont want that sort of thing to happen because it spoils their chances of having a shag and suggests a kind of organisation that many couldnt/ wouldnt possibly live up to so they would find some way of sabotaging it by setting up a forum of ex posters and attacking the very notion of it then say that everyone should listen to them despite the fact that between "them" no one has ever produced or put any money into a models pocket or even known by the adult producing community at large.

They know who they are and suspiciously one of them yawns and should get a good nights rest !happy!