What movie does this scene come from? I take it it is Italian but it's none of the ones shown on Iafd.
Any clues?
name of movie with Danny Fumagalli
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I've never seen it before, but the shooting style and the location make me assume that it may be a flick shot by director Benito Boldi.
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Thanks. Your suggestion seems to have led me to the actor's name. The actor may be Luca Bazooka:
But neither in this site nor in the Iafd did I find anything regarding the movie name.
But neither in this site nor in the Iafd did I find anything regarding the movie name.
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It is not IAFD or EGAFD's fault that Fumagalli/Bazooka's movies are not in these databases or known.
Many of the box covers of the movies they appear in do not show their names, and often purely fictional names are printed there.
I don't think this is the performers' faults as they have no control over such matters. It is the purely the fault of the distributor who has no interest in telling the general public who is the movie. These usually are not A-type productions or A-type performers.
If you Google Dany Fumgalli's name you invariably just get links to this single movie: Gigolo Per Italiane In Calore (Topax), mainly because her name is shown on box cover.
Many of the box covers of the movies they appear in do not show their names, and often purely fictional names are printed there.
I don't think this is the performers' faults as they have no control over such matters. It is the purely the fault of the distributor who has no interest in telling the general public who is the movie. These usually are not A-type productions or A-type performers.
If you Google Dany Fumgalli's name you invariably just get links to this single movie: Gigolo Per Italiane In Calore (Topax), mainly because her name is shown on box cover.
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True, yet it boggles me mind that there's no Italian database or the stars don't have websites, for the most part, considering how big the porn industry has always been over there.
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Why should it boggle your mind?
ALL the important movie databases (mainstream and porno) are all English (IAFD, EGAFD, BAGFD, EBI, IMDB). Neither Italian or other countries have shown any real interest in setting up important adult databases. The French have a lot of web sites and databases but are usually for mainstream movies (or specialize in directotrs' careers).
From my recollection of EGAFD, it started rather small, there was not that much information on it (quite of bit of softcore movies), no pictures, I think the forum started up later). Look at it now, Alec is running about a year behind on updates, he can hardly keep up with all the information out thetre, and there is a lot of movies and performners unaccounted for). IAFD did not even list info on movies released prior to 1989 in the beginning (a personal and commercial decision by Van Aarle)and there were no pictures as I recall or a lot of information that you find now.
I think to really run an adult database involving euro movies and performers is a very daunting task, due to a couple of important factors:
=performers names usually are not shown on box covers or for that matter in movie credits, and when they do appear they mostly cannot be trusted
=for US titles there is a lot more material out there, and release dates and box covers are way MUCH easier to track down.
Italian porn big? I don't know, as compared to what? If you perhaps include a lot of "amatorial" titles, or titles they claim are italian-made but really is not, perhaps you can say it is "big" but quality wise, I don't know.
ALL the important movie databases (mainstream and porno) are all English (IAFD, EGAFD, BAGFD, EBI, IMDB). Neither Italian or other countries have shown any real interest in setting up important adult databases. The French have a lot of web sites and databases but are usually for mainstream movies (or specialize in directotrs' careers).
From my recollection of EGAFD, it started rather small, there was not that much information on it (quite of bit of softcore movies), no pictures, I think the forum started up later). Look at it now, Alec is running about a year behind on updates, he can hardly keep up with all the information out thetre, and there is a lot of movies and performners unaccounted for). IAFD did not even list info on movies released prior to 1989 in the beginning (a personal and commercial decision by Van Aarle)and there were no pictures as I recall or a lot of information that you find now.
I think to really run an adult database involving euro movies and performers is a very daunting task, due to a couple of important factors:
=performers names usually are not shown on box covers or for that matter in movie credits, and when they do appear they mostly cannot be trusted
=for US titles there is a lot more material out there, and release dates and box covers are way MUCH easier to track down.
Italian porn big? I don't know, as compared to what? If you perhaps include a lot of "amatorial" titles, or titles they claim are italian-made but really is not, perhaps you can say it is "big" but quality wise, I don't know.
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I believe Alec's main motive in the beginning was to get IDs for the unknowns
from his favoured 'classic' era : -)
To say it has snowballed is a slight understatement.
I do think there's a point about the English-speaking penchant [or mania] for
pigeon-holing things- we're not so much a nation of shopkeepers as a nation
of stamp-collectors : -)
from his favoured 'classic' era : -)
To say it has snowballed is a slight understatement.
I do think there's a point about the English-speaking penchant [or mania] for
pigeon-holing things- we're not so much a nation of shopkeepers as a nation
of stamp-collectors : -)
"a harmless drudge, that busies himself in tracing the original, and detailing the
signification...."
signification...."
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I always think we are the train spotters of porn. And are there any non-British train spotters? 
About a decade ago some British plane spotters were arrested near a Greek airport and accused of spying. The authorities just couldn't understand the concept of the hobby of plane spotting.
About a decade ago some British plane spotters were arrested near a Greek airport and accused of spying. The authorities just couldn't understand the concept of the hobby of plane spotting.
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alec wrote:
> I always think we are the train spotters of porn.
Yes, that's more apposite.
< And are there any non-British train spotters?
There are rail enthusiasts in Europe [and elsewhere], but I've never heard of
them feeling a need to catalogue loco numbers in a dog-eared notebook*. Some
people [I assume having 'done' the locos] now 'spot' wagon-numbers, which
to me is indicative of a pressing need for psychotherapeutic intervention....
or possibly a season-ticket to a brothel.
*or into a micro-recorder, while standing on the ends of a platform- which
just makes them look all the barmier.
> I always think we are the train spotters of porn.
Yes, that's more apposite.
< And are there any non-British train spotters?
There are rail enthusiasts in Europe [and elsewhere], but I've never heard of
them feeling a need to catalogue loco numbers in a dog-eared notebook*. Some
people [I assume having 'done' the locos] now 'spot' wagon-numbers, which
to me is indicative of a pressing need for psychotherapeutic intervention....
or possibly a season-ticket to a brothel.
*or into a micro-recorder, while standing on the ends of a platform- which
just makes them look all the barmier.
"a harmless drudge, that busies himself in tracing the original, and detailing the
signification...."
signification...."
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Len801 wrote:
> Italian porn big? I don't know, as compared to what? If you
> perhaps include a lot of "amatorial" titles, or titles they
> claim are italian-made but really is not, perhaps you can say
> it is "big" but quality wise, I don't know.
Surely in the 80s-early 90s Italian porn was big in terms of exposure and total revenues. Probably only in metropolitan USA in the early 70s (the short timespan during which 'Deep Throat', 'Behind the Green Door' and the original 'Devil in Miss Jones' were released) porn has been so near to becoming full mainstream as it happened in Italy 20-25 years ago. Advertisings for porn magazines and movies were everywhere, in street posters, newspapers and a lot of non-porn press. People like Moana, Cicciolina, Roberto Malone and later Selen, Jessica Rizzo and Rocco appeared regularly on the main TV channels and everybody (including old housewives) knew who they were. I fully realized how particular this situation was in the early 90s, when I moved to study in Belgium and noticed that there porn was a niche, with dedicated and isolated shops and theatres whose sales didn't overlap with non-porn material and no mainstream exposure whatsoever in popular media.
However this privileged position was never reflected in a better professional attitude from the Italian porn producers. A lot of shooting remained firmly in the hands of uninterested thugs like Joe D'Amato, who never respected or took slightly in consideration his public. Also, the Italian laws protected the distribution of porn, mainly because of the high unionisation level of the owners of newsstands, rentals and theatres, but it didn't protect the material production of it. This drove all the shooting in the underground, with a lot of productions happening abroad or pretending to do so and mostly trying to hide who was behind them, anonimizing any name connected to them except of course those of the aforementioned visible 'stars'.
It was really a bottleneck, with a huge cash flow coming from the retail side of the business all going toward a small semi-clandestine productive side.
And anyway this was a long time ago, the lack of any widely recognizable female star after 1995 coupled with the digital revolution completely destroyed any mainstream ambition of the Italian porn industry.
> Italian porn big? I don't know, as compared to what? If you
> perhaps include a lot of "amatorial" titles, or titles they
> claim are italian-made but really is not, perhaps you can say
> it is "big" but quality wise, I don't know.
Surely in the 80s-early 90s Italian porn was big in terms of exposure and total revenues. Probably only in metropolitan USA in the early 70s (the short timespan during which 'Deep Throat', 'Behind the Green Door' and the original 'Devil in Miss Jones' were released) porn has been so near to becoming full mainstream as it happened in Italy 20-25 years ago. Advertisings for porn magazines and movies were everywhere, in street posters, newspapers and a lot of non-porn press. People like Moana, Cicciolina, Roberto Malone and later Selen, Jessica Rizzo and Rocco appeared regularly on the main TV channels and everybody (including old housewives) knew who they were. I fully realized how particular this situation was in the early 90s, when I moved to study in Belgium and noticed that there porn was a niche, with dedicated and isolated shops and theatres whose sales didn't overlap with non-porn material and no mainstream exposure whatsoever in popular media.
However this privileged position was never reflected in a better professional attitude from the Italian porn producers. A lot of shooting remained firmly in the hands of uninterested thugs like Joe D'Amato, who never respected or took slightly in consideration his public. Also, the Italian laws protected the distribution of porn, mainly because of the high unionisation level of the owners of newsstands, rentals and theatres, but it didn't protect the material production of it. This drove all the shooting in the underground, with a lot of productions happening abroad or pretending to do so and mostly trying to hide who was behind them, anonimizing any name connected to them except of course those of the aforementioned visible 'stars'.
It was really a bottleneck, with a huge cash flow coming from the retail side of the business all going toward a small semi-clandestine productive side.
And anyway this was a long time ago, the lack of any widely recognizable female star after 1995 coupled with the digital revolution completely destroyed any mainstream ambition of the Italian porn industry.