Demutigung - Updates

[bunker]

Some updates for Demutigung
The copy I saw had no opening or end titles at all, but for the Goldlight logo. It was dubbed in German but for the making of scenes in French.
Duration 1:29:38
The film itself is 1:19 with at the end about 10 minutes of quite a nice making of scenes.
Are listed here :
Christiane Gonod playing a nurse
Delfynn Delage
Screencaps from a scene with both of them fisting each other.


Delfynn has 2 more scenes: the opening scene with a boxer in a box rink and a short scene where she is fisted by Nomi.
Christiane has another scene (as a nun as well) with a gardener.

Two other girls have to be added.

The slim as usual Nomi. Besides the scene with Delfynn she has a g/b scene.


?lys?e Paradise in a non-sex role. She just stands besides JP twice in between scenes. In the making of we see her preparing herself for a scene (white dreess) but that scene is not in the copy I saw.


Some screencaps from the making of:



thanks.

[asscander]

The same is here, thanks for more detailed info

[bunker]

asscander wrote:

> The same is
> here,
> thanks for more detailed info
>
>

I should remember to search the forum before posting. !oops!
I wonder why Elysee's scene is not in the movie.
Anyhow, she is also in Nique Bill (Fuck Bill) that is not listed here. I'll do a post about it.
thanks.

[bunker]

The page lists J.C. as director of Demutigung.

I know a bit about directors but sometimes the names of directors listed on covers or tiltes seem to me as confusing as those of the girls.

Here we list J.C as director = Jack Crawler as it is written on the box cover.


But the cover lists also besides Delphyne: Chantal S., Emanuelle and Anastasia ??? Who are these girls ? AFAIK these names are not aliases of the 3 girls we see in the movie ?

In the making of the girls talk to the director as Gabriel and he should be Gabriel Pontello.



I have been looking for pictures of these guys and could not find any. I tought it would be easy, specially for Pontello, he is so well known and for a few decades. But the only one I found is the one here as a young actor and the close-up we see on box covers with his cigar in his hand. (It looks like the guy on my screencaps (but much younger) who had most of the time a cigar in his hand). I did not find any for J.C.

Did the copy you saw had titles or was listing the director ? Or do you know how these guys look like ?

Unless Jack Crawler and Gabriel Pontello are the same person (I did not see anything about this in the sites I visited) I would think G.B. shoud be the director.

thanks.

[asscander]

I think, that Chantal S., Emanuelle and Anastasia belongs to Nomi, C.Gonod and ?lys?e Paradise, but who knows who is who? I dont have any credits in my copy... And why GB become JC for Goldlight? Too many ??? but no one answer. Thanks to Goldlight, Delphyne keeps her name the same...

[jj]

.... as a general 'rule' [and thus with all the usual caveats]
I've found that Goldlight credits tend to be wholly fictitious [or
factitious, if you prefer] except where an actress has a sufficiently
high profile and already has a widely-established name, e.g. Madalina
Ray. The name 'Jack Crawler' also appears as the credited director
of some what turn out to be compilations..... I've even seen the
name'Alan Smithee' appear in their credits so it's obvious that
they're having some 'fun' with us. Ho, ho; very amusing......
I don't doubt that GP is the director behind most if not all 'JC'
titles; but whether anyone will ever be able to prove an absolute
equivalence is another matter.

[bunker]

jj wrote:

>
> I don't doubt that GP is the director behind most if not all
> 'JC'
> titles; but whether anyone will ever be able to prove an
> absolute
> equivalence is another matter.
>
>

In this case, because of the "making of" I would think that GP is the director of this movie... but prooving an absolute equivalence between JC and GP will not be possible (I think) because JC may probably be many different directors.
In the case below, JC is Max Bellocchio.

I just made that post about these 2 movies being the same one.


Il gioco della notte = Der Spieleinsatz

The director of Il gioco is written as Max Bellocchio by P.V. International (and that's what is written on the titles) but the name of the director given by Goldlight for Der Spieleingatz is also Jack Crawler.

So Jack Crawler could be Gabriel Pontello and Max Bellocchio.

Do Goldlight just fill the blank besides the name of the director by writing Jack Crawler for whatever movie they release ?

[jj]

"Do Goldlight just fill the blank besides the name of the director
by writing Jack Crawler for whatever movie they release" ?

Pretty much
What the motive behind such pointless obfuscation might be, I
cannot guess. Strange as it seems, some people lie for fun, or
because they are inherently unable to behave otherwise.
Politicians, for example....

[bunker]

jj wrote:

> Strange as it seems, some people lie for fun, or
> because they are inherently unable to behave otherwise.
> Politicians, for example....
>
>
>

Agreed !thumbsup!

[ivan1717]

Don't think the nun is Christiane Gonod, she looks much younger