i thought i'd start a thread called football according to me. this is where you say how you believe it is. i get tired of some people in england assuming since i'm a yank, i'm one of those scum sucking gloryhunters who only want to win and don't want to go through hardships like a real supporter. so here is many random thoughs on football according to me.
i detest sponsorship names on grounds, grounds should be named after geographical locations, not some stupid lifeless company that could care less about the club if the checks don't come in on time. it's not king power stadium, it's filbert way. it's not ipro stadium, it's pride park. it's not the etihad, it's eastlands. my home is st. andrews and i'm not going to acknowledge some stupid sponsor if they buy my grounds rights. these places are sacred grounds, let's treat them with the respect they deserve. could you imaging if the baseball ground was still around?? it would probally be called the trojan condoms stadium. pish posh i say. stevie bloomer would be spinning in his grave.
that leads me to when i watch sky sports news over here in the states and something like the millwall-wigan incident at the 2012-13 fa cup semi-final happens, people like bill bradshaw and shaun custis hold their hands over their face and scream, "OH NO, we're going back to the DARK AGES!!!" let me tell those blokes something, the football today, especially in the premier league, is corporate football. i did'nt see half as many clubs going out of business or going into administration in the so called "dark ages" than today because they are trying to keep up with the joneses at the top. we all know hooliganism was awful and should never have came into the game, but that should not be a indictment of those eras just because a few nutters out their have violent tendancies. did the higher ups at blackpool supply the carpet knifes to the muckers when they went on their infamous rampage in torquay??? i don't think so.
if anything, those eras were better than today's era because back then, money did'nt win championships, footballers did. back then, clubs from unfashionable places like ipswich, burnley, huddersfield, preston, wolverhampton, portsmouth and sunderland, had legit chances of winning championships.
let's be bluntly honest, the title race is so utterly boring. i'd much rather fold socks than care about who wins the title. and don't get me started about the champions league, which is more like football's version of a country club than a legit tournement. i'd start caring if everybody had a shot at the title instead of the same 3-4 clubs every season. the cups are to the point where they don't mean anything. so far this has been a decent fa cup as all but three of the premier league giants are out (and i have a feeling the winner of man u-arsenal will win the cup) it's been a good tournement so far. but pales in comparision to when going into it, you did'nt really know who was going to win.
and finally, i've been watching football and supporting birmingham city since 2006, i chose my team because i was just drawn to them. i know that unless carson yeung gets out of the way and a billionaire buys us, our chances of winning the premier league is none (they would be slim with the billionaire seeing how QPR is rich and is in a less than presentable ground and they are still struggling.) i love my club because they are my club. i get frustrated at my fellow americans for just picking a club the television companies tell them to rather than do your research and support a club that fits you, that needs you and that you love unconditionally. if your a american and you support arsenal, chelsea, liverpool, man city, man united or tottenham, i won't have nothing to do with you because you chose the easy way and chose to be a gloryhunter and i believe gloryhunters don't care about the game, they care about the glory. but if i see somebody supporting nottingham forest or sheffield wednesday or southampton, i'll give you a nod. if you support even a smaller club like yeovil town or grimsby town or bury, i'll applaud you for supporting a club who needs you for you instead of your wallet.
cheers everybody, thank you for reading this and i encourage you if you have of opinion on football according to you, tell everybody how you see football. KRO everybody.
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bluewomble858
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bluewomble858 wrote:
> i thought i'd start a thread called football according to me.
> this is where you say how you believe it is. i get tired of
> some people in england assuming since i'm a yank,
Thank you for not using the awful 'S' word many of your contemporaries do over there in the New World.
Its football. thanks for using the correct terminology!
BTW, anyone remember what the Reebok is called these days? That's the problem with sponsorship, people will always remember the first name, subsequent renaming don't get value for money.
It's difficult with new stadiums that have moved, a new name is in order, but people still call the Reebok the Reebok, and the McAlpine the McAlpine, even though they've changed.
The worst one must be Newcastles attempt to name the ground The Sports Direct Arena, and using signage saying 'Sportsdirectareana@stjamespark' to fail spectacularly to) placate the supporters.
> i thought i'd start a thread called football according to me.
> this is where you say how you believe it is. i get tired of
> some people in england assuming since i'm a yank,
Thank you for not using the awful 'S' word many of your contemporaries do over there in the New World.
Its football. thanks for using the correct terminology!
BTW, anyone remember what the Reebok is called these days? That's the problem with sponsorship, people will always remember the first name, subsequent renaming don't get value for money.
It's difficult with new stadiums that have moved, a new name is in order, but people still call the Reebok the Reebok, and the McAlpine the McAlpine, even though they've changed.
The worst one must be Newcastles attempt to name the ground The Sports Direct Arena, and using signage saying 'Sportsdirectareana@stjamespark' to fail spectacularly to) placate the supporters.
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Milk Tray Man
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I agree with pretty much everything you say, bluewomble. The moneymen have ruined football and sucked out its soul. And yes I too hate all this corporate stadium stuff.
I commented on this on here just recently in another thread which you may not have seen. So rather than spend time typing it all out again, I'm going to cheat a bit and just cut & paste my musings from there below. So apologies for repeating myself if this all reads familiar:
Football is just a "product" now and the premier league a "brand", the whole thing is characterized mainly by greed, with the sporting aspect of it just a means to an end. It's pretty much 3 sub-leagues in one, and all very tiresomely predictable.
At the top you have maybe 4 clubs who have a chance of actually winning the league (and you know who they are before the season kicks off, namely two from Manchester and two from London). At the bottom there are 4 or 5 clubs trying not to finish in the bottom 3 (again, you know who they are before the season kicks off). And in the middle you have all the rest fighting over the (largely meaningless) scraps like a "top 10 finish" or a Europa League spot (the Europa League having nothing like the prestige of the old UEFA Cup or Cup Winners Cup). All a bit shit really.
Never again will an "unfashionable" provincial team come from nowhere and win the league like Forest and Villa did, or like QPR and Ipswich came within a point or two of doing. It just will not and cannot happen the way things are now.
Having said all that, the Scottish premier league is even more of a joke. Just hand the fucking trophy to Celtic in August and be done with it.
I commented on this on here just recently in another thread which you may not have seen. So rather than spend time typing it all out again, I'm going to cheat a bit and just cut & paste my musings from there below. So apologies for repeating myself if this all reads familiar:
Football is just a "product" now and the premier league a "brand", the whole thing is characterized mainly by greed, with the sporting aspect of it just a means to an end. It's pretty much 3 sub-leagues in one, and all very tiresomely predictable.
At the top you have maybe 4 clubs who have a chance of actually winning the league (and you know who they are before the season kicks off, namely two from Manchester and two from London). At the bottom there are 4 or 5 clubs trying not to finish in the bottom 3 (again, you know who they are before the season kicks off). And in the middle you have all the rest fighting over the (largely meaningless) scraps like a "top 10 finish" or a Europa League spot (the Europa League having nothing like the prestige of the old UEFA Cup or Cup Winners Cup). All a bit shit really.
Never again will an "unfashionable" provincial team come from nowhere and win the league like Forest and Villa did, or like QPR and Ipswich came within a point or two of doing. It just will not and cannot happen the way things are now.
Having said all that, the Scottish premier league is even more of a joke. Just hand the fucking trophy to Celtic in August and be done with it.
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bluewomble858
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to peter, to me, calling football that s word is like the worst thing in the world. it's ok to call it football, fussball, futbol or calcio, but never that s word. i'm such a fan, i have a team i cheer for in most leagues. birmingham city in england, hibernian in scotland, llanelli in wales, oberhausen in germany, lorient in france, palermo in italy, tenerife in spain, NEC in the netherlands, eupen in belgium, internacional in brazil and kansas city here in the states, even though i believe MLS is a joke league because it's full of old timers who can't make it in europe anymore and there's no relegation/promotion system. i only pull for kansas city because i don't have no local team and for family reasons (my uncle, who was a father figure to me, is from kansas city.) but england and germany are my two favorite leagues and the leagues i pay the most attention to.
to milk tray man, i did'nt see that thread. but i'm glad you agree with me. it's a sad day when the FIFA video games are a better opition than the stuff on the pitch because at least on the video games, everybody has a chance. i say to everybody that as far as english leagues go, the championship is better than the premier league because it's unpredictible and everybody has a chance. look at the table now, the top 8 are within 11 points of each other and all of them still have a chance to be promoted. but that begs the question, why get promoted??? sure you will get the boost from being in the premier league and sure, if you win the playoff, you'll win a treasure chest of money. but then you go into the premier league, get gang raped by the big clubs, get relegated and you might end up like portsmouth or wimbledon. i disagree with most of my fellow birmingham supporters when they say they want to go up. i want to stay in the championship until we get a very substantial amount of money (man city level money) and either renovate st. andrew's to modern standards (which i hate because i like the way it is now) or build the long rumored 55,000 seat city of birmingham stadium to compete against the big boys. all of us supporters tell ourselves we wish our clubs were like the big boys because we'd get all the fame, acclaim and trophies that come with it. but really we don't because clubs like man city and chelsea are no longer football clubs, they are soulless corporate brands who is out to make a buck rather than do what it was founded to do, which is play football.
i could'nt imaging if birmingham became one of those clubs, surely, i would stick around because they are my club. but i would be torn. all these gloryhunters showing up out of the woodwork in birmingham shirts, all these celebrities like lebron james and snoop dogg coming around, saying they've "supported" birmingham all there lives, and soulless prats like ballotelli, samri nasri and mezil ozil wearing my clubs shirt only because we're pouring truckloads of money into their pocketbooks. you know who i want on my team, gavin mahon, because he's one of us. nathan redmond, because he's one of us. troy deeney, because he's one of us. and i want to keep all the big clubs grubby hands off of our crown jewel, demarai gray, beacause he's one of us and he's damn good. it might sound cheesy to everybody, but i knew when i started supporting birmingham back in 2006, they would and never will win the premier league, but they will always be the premier league champions of my heart. every year til the day i take the old dirt nap. blue flows through my veins and blue is in my heart and soul and when i kiss the badge, i do it because i love them. plain and simple.
and don't get me started about scotland and the old firm. they are ruining football in scotland. as a hibs supporter, i can't stand the fact a club the size of hibs can't compete for a title anymore and i'd dare say our support rivals, if not surpases, the old firm support. just listen to a roaring chorus of sunshine on leith at easter road, it's enough to send chills down your spine. of course, i don't think farmer and petrie are interested it titles. they've hired some terrible managers like mixu paatelainen and terry butcher, although i like alan stubbs, i'm not going to get too attached consittering if the everton or any other fashionable job in england opens up, he will leave for it. hibs is no longer a destination club, it's a stepping stone club. frustrating.
thanks for the responses and thanks for reading everybody. KRO!!!
to milk tray man, i did'nt see that thread. but i'm glad you agree with me. it's a sad day when the FIFA video games are a better opition than the stuff on the pitch because at least on the video games, everybody has a chance. i say to everybody that as far as english leagues go, the championship is better than the premier league because it's unpredictible and everybody has a chance. look at the table now, the top 8 are within 11 points of each other and all of them still have a chance to be promoted. but that begs the question, why get promoted??? sure you will get the boost from being in the premier league and sure, if you win the playoff, you'll win a treasure chest of money. but then you go into the premier league, get gang raped by the big clubs, get relegated and you might end up like portsmouth or wimbledon. i disagree with most of my fellow birmingham supporters when they say they want to go up. i want to stay in the championship until we get a very substantial amount of money (man city level money) and either renovate st. andrew's to modern standards (which i hate because i like the way it is now) or build the long rumored 55,000 seat city of birmingham stadium to compete against the big boys. all of us supporters tell ourselves we wish our clubs were like the big boys because we'd get all the fame, acclaim and trophies that come with it. but really we don't because clubs like man city and chelsea are no longer football clubs, they are soulless corporate brands who is out to make a buck rather than do what it was founded to do, which is play football.
i could'nt imaging if birmingham became one of those clubs, surely, i would stick around because they are my club. but i would be torn. all these gloryhunters showing up out of the woodwork in birmingham shirts, all these celebrities like lebron james and snoop dogg coming around, saying they've "supported" birmingham all there lives, and soulless prats like ballotelli, samri nasri and mezil ozil wearing my clubs shirt only because we're pouring truckloads of money into their pocketbooks. you know who i want on my team, gavin mahon, because he's one of us. nathan redmond, because he's one of us. troy deeney, because he's one of us. and i want to keep all the big clubs grubby hands off of our crown jewel, demarai gray, beacause he's one of us and he's damn good. it might sound cheesy to everybody, but i knew when i started supporting birmingham back in 2006, they would and never will win the premier league, but they will always be the premier league champions of my heart. every year til the day i take the old dirt nap. blue flows through my veins and blue is in my heart and soul and when i kiss the badge, i do it because i love them. plain and simple.
and don't get me started about scotland and the old firm. they are ruining football in scotland. as a hibs supporter, i can't stand the fact a club the size of hibs can't compete for a title anymore and i'd dare say our support rivals, if not surpases, the old firm support. just listen to a roaring chorus of sunshine on leith at easter road, it's enough to send chills down your spine. of course, i don't think farmer and petrie are interested it titles. they've hired some terrible managers like mixu paatelainen and terry butcher, although i like alan stubbs, i'm not going to get too attached consittering if the everton or any other fashionable job in england opens up, he will leave for it. hibs is no longer a destination club, it's a stepping stone club. frustrating.
thanks for the responses and thanks for reading everybody. KRO!!!
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Arginald Valleywater
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Re: football according to me
The Premier League is like F1. It sees itself above all other forms of English football. To the big cheeses at the PL they can just about see to the top 3 of the Championship to see who is coming up to join their cabal but below that they don't give a toss. My hometown club is in dire trouble...yet walking round the gym tonight I saw Man U, Liverpool and Man City tops but not one Carlisle shirt....
I hope SKY bring out a Premier League channel so I can opt out and watch other sports much more cheaply.
I hope SKY bring out a Premier League channel so I can opt out and watch other sports much more cheaply.
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bluewomble858
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Re: football according to me
yeah. i see your point. if i saw a carlisle supporter over here in the states, i'd applaud them. that's a club that in the 70's was a top tier club, but since money became a issue in the sport, has been left out in the cold. brunton park does need some fixing up, but carlisle would be a great addition in the championship.
i got another issue that bothers me about football and that's international eligibilty. i don't mean to sound xenophobic here, but i want people born IN the country they play for. i'm sick of some joe blo being born in england and being eligible to play for ireland because his grandma was born there. it should be a iron clad rule, you play for the country you were BORN in, no excuses. the way it is now, it waters things down and we really don't know who the best is. your telling me lukas podolski is german and not polish??? your telling me robbie earnshaw is welsh and not zambian??? it should be cut and dry, you play where you were born, regardless of the situation.
now, i figured i'd make a list of english grounds according to me since i really danced around peter's reebok comment. so here are some english grounds names according to me.
accrington stanley (crown ground)
arsenal (ashburton grove)
aston villa (villa park)
barnet (the hive)
barnsley (oakwell)
birmingham city (st. andrew's)
blackburn rovers (ewood park)
blackpool (bloomfield road)
bolton wanderers (the reebok) (reebok is important to the city of bolton)
bradford city (valley parade)
brentford (griffin park)
brighton & hove albion (falmer stadium)
bristol city (ashton gate)
burnley (turf moor)
burton albion (princess way)
bury (gigg lane)
cambridge united (abbey stadium)
carlisle united (brunton park)
charlton athletic (the valley)
chelsea (stanford bridge)
cheltenham town (whaddon road)
chesterfield (new saltergate)
colchester united (cuckoo farm)
coventry city (coventry city stadium)
crawley town (broadfield stadum)
crewe alexandra (getsy road)
crystal palace (selhurst park)
dagenham & redbridge (victoria road)
derby county (pride park)
doncaster rovers (the keepmoat)
everton (goodison park)
exeter city (st. james park)
fleetwood town (highbury stadium)
fulham (craven cottage)
gillingham (priestfield)
hartlepool united (victoria park)
huddersfield town (kirklees stadium)
hull city (hull circle)
ipswich town (portman road)
leeds united (elland road)
leicester city (filbert way)
leyton orient (brisbane road)
liverpool (anfield)
luton town (kenilworth road)
manchester city (eastlands)
mancester united (old trafford)
mansfield town (field mill)
middlesbrough (the riverside)
millwall (the new den) (let's not kid ourselves, it just not the original den)
milton keynes (stadium mk)
morecambe (westgate stadium)
newcastle united (st. james park)
northampton town (sixfields)
norwich city (carrow road)
nottingham forest (city ground)
notts county (meadow lane)
oldham athletic (boundary park) (also known as ice station zebra)
oxford united (grenoble road)
peterborough united (london road)
plymouth argyle (home park)
port vale (vale park)
portsmouth (fratton park)
preston north end (deepdale)
queens park rangers (loftus road)
reading (madejski stadium)
rochdale (spotland)
rotherham united (new york stadium)
scunthorpe united (glanford park)
sheffield united (bramall lane)
sheffield wednesday (hillsborough)
shrewsbury town (new meadow)
southampton (st. mary's)
southend united (roots hall)
stevenage (broadhall way)
stoke city (brittania stadium) (brittania is important in stoke-on-trent)
sunderland (stadium of light)
swindon town (county ground)
tottenham hotspur (white hart lane)
tranmere rovers (prenton park)
walsall (new fellows park)
watford (vicarage road)
west bromwich albion (the hawthornes)
west ham united (upton park)
wigan athletic (dw stadium) (it is whelan's club after all)
wimbledon (kingsmeadow) (they should return to plough lane or move to wimbledon stadium)
wolverhampton (molineuax)
wycombe wanderers (adams park)
yeovil town (huish park)
york city (bootham crescent)
plus three favorites of mine
lancaster city (giant ax)
lewes (the dripping pan)
shepshed dynamo (butthole lane)
these are the names i use for these grounds and they will never change unless they move to a new ground. they are to be used in perpetuity as long as they are where they are at.
on a closing note, could you imaging somebody like jon champion or martin tyler annoucing a shepshed dynamo game on the tele and having to say "butthole lane" instead of the dovecote. that would be funny and cool.
thanks for reading and KRO everybody.
i got another issue that bothers me about football and that's international eligibilty. i don't mean to sound xenophobic here, but i want people born IN the country they play for. i'm sick of some joe blo being born in england and being eligible to play for ireland because his grandma was born there. it should be a iron clad rule, you play for the country you were BORN in, no excuses. the way it is now, it waters things down and we really don't know who the best is. your telling me lukas podolski is german and not polish??? your telling me robbie earnshaw is welsh and not zambian??? it should be cut and dry, you play where you were born, regardless of the situation.
now, i figured i'd make a list of english grounds according to me since i really danced around peter's reebok comment. so here are some english grounds names according to me.
accrington stanley (crown ground)
arsenal (ashburton grove)
aston villa (villa park)
barnet (the hive)
barnsley (oakwell)
birmingham city (st. andrew's)
blackburn rovers (ewood park)
blackpool (bloomfield road)
bolton wanderers (the reebok) (reebok is important to the city of bolton)
bradford city (valley parade)
brentford (griffin park)
brighton & hove albion (falmer stadium)
bristol city (ashton gate)
burnley (turf moor)
burton albion (princess way)
bury (gigg lane)
cambridge united (abbey stadium)
carlisle united (brunton park)
charlton athletic (the valley)
chelsea (stanford bridge)
cheltenham town (whaddon road)
chesterfield (new saltergate)
colchester united (cuckoo farm)
coventry city (coventry city stadium)
crawley town (broadfield stadum)
crewe alexandra (getsy road)
crystal palace (selhurst park)
dagenham & redbridge (victoria road)
derby county (pride park)
doncaster rovers (the keepmoat)
everton (goodison park)
exeter city (st. james park)
fleetwood town (highbury stadium)
fulham (craven cottage)
gillingham (priestfield)
hartlepool united (victoria park)
huddersfield town (kirklees stadium)
hull city (hull circle)
ipswich town (portman road)
leeds united (elland road)
leicester city (filbert way)
leyton orient (brisbane road)
liverpool (anfield)
luton town (kenilworth road)
manchester city (eastlands)
mancester united (old trafford)
mansfield town (field mill)
middlesbrough (the riverside)
millwall (the new den) (let's not kid ourselves, it just not the original den)
milton keynes (stadium mk)
morecambe (westgate stadium)
newcastle united (st. james park)
northampton town (sixfields)
norwich city (carrow road)
nottingham forest (city ground)
notts county (meadow lane)
oldham athletic (boundary park) (also known as ice station zebra)
oxford united (grenoble road)
peterborough united (london road)
plymouth argyle (home park)
port vale (vale park)
portsmouth (fratton park)
preston north end (deepdale)
queens park rangers (loftus road)
reading (madejski stadium)
rochdale (spotland)
rotherham united (new york stadium)
scunthorpe united (glanford park)
sheffield united (bramall lane)
sheffield wednesday (hillsborough)
shrewsbury town (new meadow)
southampton (st. mary's)
southend united (roots hall)
stevenage (broadhall way)
stoke city (brittania stadium) (brittania is important in stoke-on-trent)
sunderland (stadium of light)
swindon town (county ground)
tottenham hotspur (white hart lane)
tranmere rovers (prenton park)
walsall (new fellows park)
watford (vicarage road)
west bromwich albion (the hawthornes)
west ham united (upton park)
wigan athletic (dw stadium) (it is whelan's club after all)
wimbledon (kingsmeadow) (they should return to plough lane or move to wimbledon stadium)
wolverhampton (molineuax)
wycombe wanderers (adams park)
yeovil town (huish park)
york city (bootham crescent)
plus three favorites of mine
lancaster city (giant ax)
lewes (the dripping pan)
shepshed dynamo (butthole lane)
these are the names i use for these grounds and they will never change unless they move to a new ground. they are to be used in perpetuity as long as they are where they are at.
on a closing note, could you imaging somebody like jon champion or martin tyler annoucing a shepshed dynamo game on the tele and having to say "butthole lane" instead of the dovecote. that would be funny and cool.
thanks for reading and KRO everybody.
keep right on to the end of the road...keep right on to the end!!!
Re: football according to me
Of course West Ham is the Boleyn Ground! 
Regarding international eligibility, whilst I agree with the general principle that you play for 'your' country, I think there needs to be a little leeway for people who were born elsewhere but moved to a different country at a very early age, and are English to all real intents and purposes, except they may have legally been born French. But yes, the Jack Charlton method of "if you've ever drunk guiness, that qualifies you as Irish" is out of order.
The work permit situation also irks me. To qualify, you need to have played 75% of internationals (for a top 70 country) but that allows poor footballers from the bottom of the list to sneak through, whilst a talented Brazilian can't get in because he can't play in 75% of internationals, despite him being of the required quality for many premiership and championship clubs.
Regarding international eligibility, whilst I agree with the general principle that you play for 'your' country, I think there needs to be a little leeway for people who were born elsewhere but moved to a different country at a very early age, and are English to all real intents and purposes, except they may have legally been born French. But yes, the Jack Charlton method of "if you've ever drunk guiness, that qualifies you as Irish" is out of order.
The work permit situation also irks me. To qualify, you need to have played 75% of internationals (for a top 70 country) but that allows poor footballers from the bottom of the list to sneak through, whilst a talented Brazilian can't get in because he can't play in 75% of internationals, despite him being of the required quality for many premiership and championship clubs.
We have need of you again, great king.
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bluewomble858
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i perfer upton park myself, but understand why some would call it the boleyn ground.
i think international team pick should be up to the manager's discretion. as long as they are born in said country and they are fit to wear the shirt. don't bring in some bum who nobody has ever heard of who has'nt done anything worth wearing the shirt. i remember i got crucified by a english friend of mine when i said i believe that fabio capello should of gave nicky maynard a call up. i was just thinking since at the time he was in good form and was a good foward at bristol city, he deserved a call up. i think troy deeney deseves a call up because he has a nose for the goal. i think demarai gray also deserves a call up, only if he can get more aggresive on the ball, i think gray lacks that finishing touch great goal scorers have, but the potential is there.
another thing that burns my biscuits is sepp blatter. when i started watching football, i gave sepp the benefit of the doubt that he was trying to do what's best for the game of football. i even defended him awarding the world cups to russia and qatar. the russia bid i stand by as much as i believe putin and his homophobic/xenophobic ways sicken me because you can argue that russia is a legitimate football nation. but after really thinking about it, qatar does not deseve the world cup. the slave labor to the workers over there is inhumane and let's face it, qatar's national team is is'nt up the snuff as far as the asian teams are concerned. it's one thing to give it to brazil or germany or even to a certain extent, south africa, because we know they would have a legitimate chance of qualifying if they were not awarded the world cup. however, qatar's national team is'nt any good. plus, it's too hot to play the world cup down their and playing it in the winter would wreck havok on the domestic league schedules. even at night it's over 100'F degrees (37'C). i'm more in favor of the benelux bid because the netherlands already has some good grounds that could host the games and belgium desperately need to upgrade alot of their stadiums and are on the verge of becoming a real good footballing nation. i'd also be in favor of a joint bid with australia-new zealand hosting the world cup.
thanks for reading everybody and KRO.
i think international team pick should be up to the manager's discretion. as long as they are born in said country and they are fit to wear the shirt. don't bring in some bum who nobody has ever heard of who has'nt done anything worth wearing the shirt. i remember i got crucified by a english friend of mine when i said i believe that fabio capello should of gave nicky maynard a call up. i was just thinking since at the time he was in good form and was a good foward at bristol city, he deserved a call up. i think troy deeney deseves a call up because he has a nose for the goal. i think demarai gray also deserves a call up, only if he can get more aggresive on the ball, i think gray lacks that finishing touch great goal scorers have, but the potential is there.
another thing that burns my biscuits is sepp blatter. when i started watching football, i gave sepp the benefit of the doubt that he was trying to do what's best for the game of football. i even defended him awarding the world cups to russia and qatar. the russia bid i stand by as much as i believe putin and his homophobic/xenophobic ways sicken me because you can argue that russia is a legitimate football nation. but after really thinking about it, qatar does not deseve the world cup. the slave labor to the workers over there is inhumane and let's face it, qatar's national team is is'nt up the snuff as far as the asian teams are concerned. it's one thing to give it to brazil or germany or even to a certain extent, south africa, because we know they would have a legitimate chance of qualifying if they were not awarded the world cup. however, qatar's national team is'nt any good. plus, it's too hot to play the world cup down their and playing it in the winter would wreck havok on the domestic league schedules. even at night it's over 100'F degrees (37'C). i'm more in favor of the benelux bid because the netherlands already has some good grounds that could host the games and belgium desperately need to upgrade alot of their stadiums and are on the verge of becoming a real good footballing nation. i'd also be in favor of a joint bid with australia-new zealand hosting the world cup.
thanks for reading everybody and KRO.
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bluewomble858
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Re: football according to me
i got a couple of other things i'd like to talk about to continue this threat and get discussion/debate started.
first off is why in the world do players argue with the referee??? don't they understand when a ref makes a decision, it's final. well that or unless a linesman or fellow official tells them otherwise. i always see it at any match, in any park in the world. a offensive player will come down the wing and the defender tackles late, most of the time without ever coming close to the ball, and the referee will show yellow. the offending player and his teammates will get in the referee's face and argue with him. when has a ref admitted a bad call DURING the game??? it's always after the game if they admit a bad call IF ever. so why argue if that call will stand anyway???
another thing that gets me going is somebody will shoot the ball at the net and it deflects off of a player and the offensive teams players will throw their hands up, trying to get a handball foul and the subsequent penalty that follows. here's a idea, try to keep playing until your score or until you hear a whistle. stop wanting the referee to give you a handout. if it's a handball, the referee will give it if he feels it's a handball. does it get it right all the time???? heck no. but depending on the referee to give you a call hurts you in the end because your too focused on how you were wronged and not focused enough on righting a certain wrong.
lastly, why does it take so long to hire a replacement manager after you sack a manager??? i'm of the mindset that if you have a inkling that you might be sacking your manager, you should privately start interviewing people BEFORE you sack your manager just to gauge their interest in the job. therefor you get the guy in and he has enough time to work with them a few practices in and get to know his players better. what's with this notts county sacks a manager on march 23rd and brings in a guy on april 9th??? IMO that's too much time wasted. we need to do away with caretaker managers because time is money (especially if your trying to beat the drop.) you should not need anymore than 48-72 hours to bring in a new guy. clubs that piddledick around looking for a gaffer usually end up geting relegated. it could be worse, you could be like a italian team who goes through 3-4 managers a season.
first off is why in the world do players argue with the referee??? don't they understand when a ref makes a decision, it's final. well that or unless a linesman or fellow official tells them otherwise. i always see it at any match, in any park in the world. a offensive player will come down the wing and the defender tackles late, most of the time without ever coming close to the ball, and the referee will show yellow. the offending player and his teammates will get in the referee's face and argue with him. when has a ref admitted a bad call DURING the game??? it's always after the game if they admit a bad call IF ever. so why argue if that call will stand anyway???
another thing that gets me going is somebody will shoot the ball at the net and it deflects off of a player and the offensive teams players will throw their hands up, trying to get a handball foul and the subsequent penalty that follows. here's a idea, try to keep playing until your score or until you hear a whistle. stop wanting the referee to give you a handout. if it's a handball, the referee will give it if he feels it's a handball. does it get it right all the time???? heck no. but depending on the referee to give you a call hurts you in the end because your too focused on how you were wronged and not focused enough on righting a certain wrong.
lastly, why does it take so long to hire a replacement manager after you sack a manager??? i'm of the mindset that if you have a inkling that you might be sacking your manager, you should privately start interviewing people BEFORE you sack your manager just to gauge their interest in the job. therefor you get the guy in and he has enough time to work with them a few practices in and get to know his players better. what's with this notts county sacks a manager on march 23rd and brings in a guy on april 9th??? IMO that's too much time wasted. we need to do away with caretaker managers because time is money (especially if your trying to beat the drop.) you should not need anymore than 48-72 hours to bring in a new guy. clubs that piddledick around looking for a gaffer usually end up geting relegated. it could be worse, you could be like a italian team who goes through 3-4 managers a season.
keep right on to the end of the road...keep right on to the end!!!
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Arginald Valleywater
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Re: football according to me
A few seconds with a Rugby League ref would instill some discipline into the prima donnas and back chat merchants. Preferably an Aussie ref....would be good to watch.