Ched Evans

[Ron T. Storm]

I feel sorry for the lady who went through all of this. All of it still ongoing. It is horrid for her and I am sure she has her nightmares enhanced by all of this press coverage.

[spider]

Yes I agree.

[JamesW]

spider wrote:

> That would be an interesting conversation.
>
> Oldham "you cannot pull out of your sponsorship deal".
>
> Sponsor "OK, here keep your sponsorship money, but because
> association with your club is now so toxic, we do NOT want our
> logo appearing anywhere in your ground. It must be painted-out
> and a blank space appearing wherever we have paid for our logo
> to appear. You can then explain why your ground has so many
> blank spaces where there should be sponsor names and we will
> back that up with a news release. And by the way you cannot
> look to fill those spaces with new sponsor logo until our
> contract is finished because we have paid for those spaces."
>
> I'm sure the sponsor will have legal protections with regard to
> unauthorised use of their logos which would require Oldham to
> remove the logos if the sponsor required it and the club were
> not financial disadvantaged by that requirement. Business is
> very protective of their brands.
>
> I'd like to be a fly on the wall when that conversation is had.


These claims by spider have no basis in reality.

The painting out he refers to is sheer fantasy. Two of the sponsors in question supplied the club with half time prizes only and had no logos in the stadium. The other had two wooden boards in place on one of the stands, which they sponsored, but wooden boards are very easily removed.

The 'so many blank spaces' that spider refers to is a figment of his imagination.

[David Johnson]

"Another thing I find peculiar is that nobody seems to be prepared to acknowledge that in the world of sexual relations there is (in the real world) a big grey area inhabiting the space between normal sexual relations and sexual abuse. Of course, legally a grey area is no good, you have to commit to allowed/forbidden, so a line is drawn right through the grey area, where some people are a bit lucky to get away with dodgy behaviour and others unlucky to be thrown into the same pot as more clear-cut offenders. But in the media, including forums such as this, people seem to refute the existence of any grey area in their judgement of people, deferring their own judgement to that of the courts, keeping a nice clear-cut distinction between white-hats and black-hats."

This is the most perceptive, intelligent remark I have seen on this forum for many a month.

Thanks for the post.

[spider]

James W. It wasn't me that said that there could be legal barriers to sponsors withdrawing their sponsorship. I was using that as an example.

I'm sure wooden boards are easily removable, but the point I was making about painting-out sponsorship names was indicative. The remarks about the blank spaces being left remains (assuming the sponsor has paid for the space and the club are refusing to allow them to withdraw from the deal).

How do you know how many sponsors were going to withdraw their sponsorship / advertising if Evans was allowed to play?

So far I know of Mecca, Verlin, Zen Office. Do you think that would be the total contingent for a toxic issue like this? Do you think there will be sponsors / advertisers queuing-up to give money to Oldham if they had Evans playing for them?

Have you noticed now that the strategy to get Evans back playing has changed?

Now it?s finally dawned on Football?s business leaders that he?s not going to get back into football whilst he has a rape conviction to his name, the new strategy is to say the conviction is unsafe.



Nice bit of back pedalling there My Taylor



Steve Bruce has "examined all the evidence" and declared Evans innocent.

A jury has really has examined all the evidence and declared him guilty.

There's no shortage of idiots in the Football games is there?

The Criminal Cases Review Commission is studying his case: they will issue their verdict eventually and if there is merit to Evan?s case it?ll go back to court.

[spider]

Corrections:

A jury has really examined all the evidence and declared him guilty.

There's no shortage of idiots in the Football game is there?

[spider]

Oh yes, before anyone asks.

If he does get the conviction overturned, of course he should go back to Professional Football.

That really goes without saying.

[Essex Lad]

Hmmm... she is not quite the innocent you portray.