Nick Griffin wants all muslim's expelled from UK..

[max_tranmere]

You occasionally see Griffin on TV, but in recent days you have seen Choudray on TV a lot more than Griffin. The broadcasters contact him on mass requesting he appear on their shows after an atrocity happens and he is able to say what he likes. The broadcasters have been criticised for having this pillock on their shows though, Channel 4 news were criticised a lot online about their decision to have Choudray on their show, their presenter Cathy Newman said on the Channel 4 news website that she had been inundated with messages complaining about it. The BBC got a lot of messages complaining aswell. Theresa May said this morning that the broadcasters had given him the oxygen of publicity. I've always been puzzled why this complete nobody is treated like someone of importance, Choudray and that band of dickheads who follow him are so small in number you could fit them all into a single-decker bus, yet the media imply they are some large force of people. They are not. Ignore this bellend, don't have him on your shows, and he will disappear.

[max_tranmere]

Everyone in Britain is under the rule of law so muslims have to obey those laws just like everyone else. The thing muslims are allowed to do however, and this is not objected to it seems, is be incredibly sexist and mysoginistic. Anyone else doing this would be criticised, muslim men can do it and no one says anything. The Left and the sexual-equality lobby would be flapping like turkeys if anyone else did this, but they are nowhere to be seen and you never hear a peep out of them when it comes to women in muslim communities having less rights, respect, and so on, as the men.

There are people in society who think Sharia courts here have legal powers. They don't and this is something that has been hugely over-played and exaggerated by the press. If you've ever seen that Judge Judy programme on TV, Sharia courts in the UK are like that. The people agree to sit in front of them and go along with the ruling - it has no legal powers. This used to go on in villages a lot in England up until about 50 years ago, where local people who were known and respected locally would form a kind of committee to sort out local problems and issues. They had no legal powers either but the people in front of them agreed to go along with the ruling.

Jewish 'courts' have operated here and across the western world for centuries and surprisingly no one says anything about them. They too have no legal powers but the people there agree to go along with what is agreed. Here is a Jewish 'Court' in America:

[max_tranmere]

I imagine if Griffin had his way it wouldn't just be muslims kicked out of the country. Years ago he wanted all non-whites expelled, then it was just those who didn't go along with our way of life and traditions, then it was anyone who wanted to leave (they had a voluntary repatriation scheme, but no one would be forced to go), now it is all muslims and they would be thrown out whether they wanted to go or not. He changes his mind all the time. He will never win power anyway so no one has anything to worry about.

[max_tranmere]

Griffin certainly changes his mind a lot, as I detailed in my comment just now to cockneygeezer. If they won power, and they never will, at the very least ethnic minorities would have no rights - at the very worst they would be expelled from the nation. Griffin and co couldn't be the ruling party anyway, even if they were elected to be the Government, as many of their members aren't very bright. Could you imagine some of their members holding cabinet positions?

[max_tranmere]

It would be nice if all communities came together like that, some people have different views though. There are a small number of people who say, regarding Woolwich, that: "I don't support what happened but I can understand why it did". We've seen some muslim people on TV blaming our foreign policy, etc. People should condemn Woolwich outright - without any if, but or maybe as part of the sentence. I personally like this guy:

[max_tranmere]

Griffin would just enforce deportation orders on them and there would be flotilla's of large ships leaving all British ports packed full of people. The ships would be heading to various parts of the world to return the people to the land of their ethnic origin. None of this will ever happen though as Griffin will never win power.

"Nick Griffin is a dick head in a suit." Agreed.

"i watched him on some show where a black female academic showed him up on knowledge of his own countries history. Any respect for a formidable adversary went out the window right then." Not quite sure what you mean there.

"He's entitled to his opinion. For what its worth". I guess he is, just like that bellend Amjem Choudray. He is apparently really called Andy and he comes from Welling, he spent his younger years getting stoned on spliff and drinking large amounts of cider. He now lives in Bethnal Green (I think) and is on Benefits. Choudray must have a very thick skin as he is constantly vilified by the press, The Sun newspaper have really gone to town on him in recent days, doing double-page features all about what an arsehole he is. Yet still he appears on TV in his get-up, with his beard, ranting about crap.

[max_tranmere]

I guess most muslims are peaceful and law abiding, I would like to hear total condemnation when something awful occurs though, rather than condemnation with an 'if but and maybe' attached to it. I've mentioned this in another comment on this thread. I would like to hear 100% condemnation from these people, not just 99% condemnation. Islam comes across to be as an ideology where people have to feel a closeness to other people of that faith, it ignores national borders and those involved feel a kin-ship to other muslims more so than they do fellow citizens of the country they live in. How a nation can be successfully run when there are large amounts of people in it who think like that I do not know.

[max_tranmere]

The Nick Griffin rap:

[Gentleman]

Your right about sharia courts having no legal powers but I watched a disturbing panaorama program a few weeks ago about their courts.

It showed how far above their rstation they operated and the advice they offered such as telling abused women not to contact the police and telling women they shouldn't go anywhere near hostels etc..

Also then not granting divorces (a marriage under sharia law cannt be dissolved under uk law, they also said that out ranked uk law) and infact forcing the woman to stay with the abuser.

I hope it's still on Iplayer.

[one eyed jack]

Max wrote:

You occasionally see Griffin on TV, but in recent days you have seen Choudray on TV a lot more than Griffin



I cant help but think the reason for that is to fan the flame sof discontent and distrust by publicising everyhting thes people say.

Winding up the british public with predictable comments is what keeps the ratings up and sells newspapers and keeps advertisers happy

I noticed one news show baiting the imama to renounce the violnce. i got the feeling that despite him knowing it was shocking he didnt want to publicly go against a fellow muslims actions because deep down he probably agreed with it but what woould you expect from these extremists. theyre called that for a reason and they will piss you off all day by winding you up with comments because thats what they do

Kick em all out of this county and this will give their cause all the excuses to kill british soldiers and nationals stationed in islamic countries. Unfortuately its the sane among us that have to be careful with decisions relating to this sensitive topic.