what do we gain from locking up hihne and pryce??
what do we gain from locking up hihne and pryce??
fuck all as far as i can see...they are not a danger to anyone,HIT THEM IN THE POCKET THATS WHERE IT WILL HURT THEM,not sending them inside with nutters
Re: what do we gain from locking up hihne and pryce??
I disagree.
Just because they are rich why should they avoid jail-time?
If it had been me (I'm very poor by the way), I would be looking at a stretch.
But then again, I wouldn't have got myself in that position.
If I had got up to nine points on my licence I would have been a bit more careful about breaking the speed limit, and if I'd have got twelve points I would have taken the ban on the chin.
Or in Huhne's case (who is very rich) I would have paid someone to drive me around for a few months.
The bastard tried every trick in the book to get the case thrown out which must have cost the legal system (and me the taxpayer) thousands. He deserves all he has coming to him.
Just because they are rich why should they avoid jail-time?
If it had been me (I'm very poor by the way), I would be looking at a stretch.
But then again, I wouldn't have got myself in that position.
If I had got up to nine points on my licence I would have been a bit more careful about breaking the speed limit, and if I'd have got twelve points I would have taken the ban on the chin.
Or in Huhne's case (who is very rich) I would have paid someone to drive me around for a few months.
The bastard tried every trick in the book to get the case thrown out which must have cost the legal system (and me the taxpayer) thousands. He deserves all he has coming to him.
Re: what do we gain from locking up hihne and pryce??
They should be locked up in the same cell together for 8 months.....
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David Johnson
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"What do we gain from locking up huhne and pryce"
Punishment for the very serious crime of perverting the course of justice for which there is a potential life sentence.
"they are not a danger to anyone"
So what? Mind the number of Huhne's speeding fines might suggest otherwise. Subverting the judicial system is rightly viewed as a prison offence.
"HIT THEM IN THE POCKET THATS WHERE IT WILL HURT THEM,not sending them inside with nutters"
I disagree. This couple are high achievers: Huhne, an ex- Cabinet Minister, a multi millionaire and Pryce, a leading economist. It is the ultimate disgrace for arrogant tossers like Huhne to end up being strip searched, handcuffed and stuck in a jail. It also sends out the message that no-one is above the law.
Punishment for the very serious crime of perverting the course of justice for which there is a potential life sentence.
"they are not a danger to anyone"
So what? Mind the number of Huhne's speeding fines might suggest otherwise. Subverting the judicial system is rightly viewed as a prison offence.
"HIT THEM IN THE POCKET THATS WHERE IT WILL HURT THEM,not sending them inside with nutters"
I disagree. This couple are high achievers: Huhne, an ex- Cabinet Minister, a multi millionaire and Pryce, a leading economist. It is the ultimate disgrace for arrogant tossers like Huhne to end up being strip searched, handcuffed and stuck in a jail. It also sends out the message that no-one is above the law.
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Re: what do we gain from locking up hihne and pryce??
A possible home curfew after 2 months, according to the BBC just now. They could both be home wearing ankle tags in 8 week's times. So 8 months means 8 weeks.
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Re: what do we gain from locking up hihne and pryce??
Its a small victory to appear to be doing the right thing but I feel its a smoke screen from other bigger scandals yet to break.
These two fell on their swords to give the illusion tothe Jeremy Kyle crowd that justice is being served. The pressure is on for the to react and vent the pressure and this is what we got? A pissy conviction for lying about points?
This is why they are trying to control the internet.
Rant rant rant!!!!!! Grrr!
personally its a small victory but I understand it and commend Mrs Huhne for standing by her man and Mr Huhne for coming forward and owning up but lets not forget wat they did most famillies who are close wuldve done as well
Its just speeding points. Not as if it was fiddling with kids which I fin far worse. Or bank shafting the economy...Speeding points.
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These two fell on their swords to give the illusion tothe Jeremy Kyle crowd that justice is being served. The pressure is on for the to react and vent the pressure and this is what we got? A pissy conviction for lying about points?
This is why they are trying to control the internet.
Rant rant rant!!!!!! Grrr!
personally its a small victory but I understand it and commend Mrs Huhne for standing by her man and Mr Huhne for coming forward and owning up but lets not forget wat they did most famillies who are close wuldve done as well
Its just speeding points. Not as if it was fiddling with kids which I fin far worse. Or bank shafting the economy...Speeding points.
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what do we gain from locking up huhne and pryce??
max_tranmere wrote:
> A possible home curfew after 2 months, according to the BBC
> just now. They could both be home wearing ankle tags in 8
> week's times. So 8 months means 8 weeks.
Hardly any sentence ever means what it says. Apart from murder, it's always 50% off as a basis for negotiation. Even life doesn't or rarely means life. When the death penalty was abolished, one of the arguments put forward by the abolitionists was that life sentences would mean just that.
> A possible home curfew after 2 months, according to the BBC
> just now. They could both be home wearing ankle tags in 8
> week's times. So 8 months means 8 weeks.
Hardly any sentence ever means what it says. Apart from murder, it's always 50% off as a basis for negotiation. Even life doesn't or rarely means life. When the death penalty was abolished, one of the arguments put forward by the abolitionists was that life sentences would mean just that.
Re: Number 6
David Johnson wrote:
> "they are not a danger to anyone"
>
> So what? Mind the number of Huhne's speeding fines might
> suggest otherwise.
You don't know the circumstances of his speeding offences so you cannot claim that he is a dangerous driver. Just because someone is caught speeding does not automatically make them a dangerous driver. Indeed, his original offence ? speeding on a motorway at night ? is rarely dangerous. Inappropriate speed is dangerous not speeding per se.
Subverting the judicial system is rightly
> viewed as a prison offence.
>
> "HIT THEM IN THE POCKET THATS WHERE IT WILL HURT THEM,not
> sending them inside with nutters"
>
> I disagree. This couple are high achievers: Huhne, an ex-
> Cabinet Minister, a multi-millionaire and Pryce, a leading
> economist. It is the ultimate disgrace for arrogant tossers
> like Huhne to end up being strip-searched, handcuffed and stuck
> in a jail.
True but what do you think he would prefer 8-16 weeks in chokey or a ?5million fine?
> "they are not a danger to anyone"
>
> So what? Mind the number of Huhne's speeding fines might
> suggest otherwise.
You don't know the circumstances of his speeding offences so you cannot claim that he is a dangerous driver. Just because someone is caught speeding does not automatically make them a dangerous driver. Indeed, his original offence ? speeding on a motorway at night ? is rarely dangerous. Inappropriate speed is dangerous not speeding per se.
Subverting the judicial system is rightly
> viewed as a prison offence.
>
> "HIT THEM IN THE POCKET THATS WHERE IT WILL HURT THEM,not
> sending them inside with nutters"
>
> I disagree. This couple are high achievers: Huhne, an ex-
> Cabinet Minister, a multi-millionaire and Pryce, a leading
> economist. It is the ultimate disgrace for arrogant tossers
> like Huhne to end up being strip-searched, handcuffed and stuck
> in a jail.
True but what do you think he would prefer 8-16 weeks in chokey or a ?5million fine?
Re: what do we gain from locking up hihne and pryce??
"Its just speeding points."
They were convicted for perverting the course of justice - the speeding points bit is irrelevant.
Compare and contrast.
Following the riots in 2011 there were young people getting quite lengthy custodian sentences for stealing bottles of water.
The rationale was that the state couldn't allow people to go around looting from shops. I can understand that.
The outcome was that young people, some of whom had never been in trouble before were going to jail for one impulsive act, committed in the heat of the moment who quite likely wouldn't have done it if they hadn't been so stupid and had thought for a moment what the outcome was going to be.
Then there's Huhne. An intelligent man who got his missus to take his points all those years ago. He would have known then that he was committing an act of perverting the course of justice and the possible consequences if he got caught out.
Then when it all comes out he spends the next two years denying it. He spent the month leading-up to the trial trying every trick in the book to get the case thrown out.
If he had held his hands up when it first came out two years ago chances are he would have most probably got a suspended sentence.
Huhne's problem was that he was so arrogant that he thought that the law didn't apply to him, the law was only to keep the little people in line.
If the state cannot allow people to go around looting during a riot neither can they allow people to go around perverting the course of justice.
All this "he should be fined, he shouldn't be going to jail" just because he's rich supports his view that he is above the law.
They were convicted for perverting the course of justice - the speeding points bit is irrelevant.
Compare and contrast.
Following the riots in 2011 there were young people getting quite lengthy custodian sentences for stealing bottles of water.
The rationale was that the state couldn't allow people to go around looting from shops. I can understand that.
The outcome was that young people, some of whom had never been in trouble before were going to jail for one impulsive act, committed in the heat of the moment who quite likely wouldn't have done it if they hadn't been so stupid and had thought for a moment what the outcome was going to be.
Then there's Huhne. An intelligent man who got his missus to take his points all those years ago. He would have known then that he was committing an act of perverting the course of justice and the possible consequences if he got caught out.
Then when it all comes out he spends the next two years denying it. He spent the month leading-up to the trial trying every trick in the book to get the case thrown out.
If he had held his hands up when it first came out two years ago chances are he would have most probably got a suspended sentence.
Huhne's problem was that he was so arrogant that he thought that the law didn't apply to him, the law was only to keep the little people in line.
If the state cannot allow people to go around looting during a riot neither can they allow people to go around perverting the course of justice.
All this "he should be fined, he shouldn't be going to jail" just because he's rich supports his view that he is above the law.
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David Johnson
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Essex Lad
"True but what do you think he would prefer 8-16 weeks in chokey or a ?5million fine?"
First, this is a completely hypothetical question because in reality no-one is going to be fined ?5 million or anywhere like it for passing on speeding points.
I have no idea of Huhne's exact wealth, apart from the fact that he is a multi-millionaire. However based on the feedback of people like Taylor who got 12 months for expense fiddling and Jonathan Aitken, a Tory Cabinet minister who got sent down, prison is an extremely humbling experience for these politicians who regard themselves above the law.
As I have said before the whole process of:
1. Being strip searched, photographed, interviewed by a psychiatrist to assess if you are a suicide risk, handcuffed and taken down
2. Finding yourself in a cell and sharing a prison routine with inmates, many of whom are illiterate, mentally unstable, potentially extremely hostile etc etc
is a life changing experience and again it shows that no-one however powerful is above the law.
And finally, I understand Huhne is being hit with a six figure sum in costs for dragging out the court case so his wallet will get a hammering too.
First, this is a completely hypothetical question because in reality no-one is going to be fined ?5 million or anywhere like it for passing on speeding points.
I have no idea of Huhne's exact wealth, apart from the fact that he is a multi-millionaire. However based on the feedback of people like Taylor who got 12 months for expense fiddling and Jonathan Aitken, a Tory Cabinet minister who got sent down, prison is an extremely humbling experience for these politicians who regard themselves above the law.
As I have said before the whole process of:
1. Being strip searched, photographed, interviewed by a psychiatrist to assess if you are a suicide risk, handcuffed and taken down
2. Finding yourself in a cell and sharing a prison routine with inmates, many of whom are illiterate, mentally unstable, potentially extremely hostile etc etc
is a life changing experience and again it shows that no-one however powerful is above the law.
And finally, I understand Huhne is being hit with a six figure sum in costs for dragging out the court case so his wallet will get a hammering too.