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[one eyed jack]

Age verification will only do two things

Make no difference in protecting children who can still get access via filesharing and tube sites

Drive more traffic to filesharing and tube sites as the many people who will have to verify themselves will feel compelled not to. Who wants to verify to anyone that they watch porn??? Not many and thats why the recent campaign failed. People dont want the government telling them what to do when it comes to using the internet. Porn or not.

People quite rightfully feel this is an invasion of their privacy

Shouldnt you guys be taking this up and picketting with placards outside the court where all this is going on. I'm sure the judge would take all this into account what you are saying...Unless he doesnt see the relevance of all this.

Im sure the judge finds it distasteful enough having to deal with porn than to deal with allegations and associations that have nothing to do with the issues being deal with at hand.

[Hickster]

I was exposing his hypocrisy, OEJ, you really don't read any of the messages do you?

Nevermind.

[Hickster]

@OEJ Wrote "Opposing it on the BGAFD may bring it to peoples attention but the fact is, no one here really cares.outside of us commenting on it. Theyve decided where they all stand on this from the outset"

That might be true on here, however, I have had a fair few contact me via email to share their support. Just because they are concerned to post in public on here!

No matter, as I said, and this will be one of my last posts here.

Golden Eye International will NEVER take an alleged infringer to Court, UNLESS they have got a signed confession. The reason for this is that the ONLY time it has gone to Court was through "Default Judgments" ie, the person was not present to defend themselves and the Judge awarded the case to the Lawyers, HOWEVER even they are of Mythical talk, the "Barwinska" case comes to mind.

ACS:LAW went closest but then screwed it up, as the people said they WOULD contest the case, ACS:LAW crapped themselves and tried to drop the cases, the Judge said "No way", ACS:LAW then went bankrupt as did Media C.A.T but even then the Judge would not allow it to drop, so the cases went ahead and the lack of evidence was ridiculed in open court.

You mentioned that GEIL was making "Good headway" in the Courts, well not really, they have been neutered from what they wanted to originally do, and also what they wanted to accuse account owners of doing.

This whole scheme that is now so well documented, is based on NOT going to Court, but getting as much money from people WITHOUT going to court, if they are challenged they will drop the case. They would have to be VERY sure that the person was bang to rights to risk that venture, and they simply do not have the evidence, which is why the letter is as it is. They have to try and get the person to give them enough rope.

But remember, the only thing that GEIL have achieved is a fairly costly NPO, one that was given away to easy before, but never refused. This is just the start, they will fail, not becuase of any personal issues or amoral or immoral sense, but because the actual system they are using is corrupt by nature. Every lawyer who has used this system has failed.

Of course the really sinister thing about GEIL is that while, all the previous operators of this were lawyers, they were at least regulated by the Law Society, GEIL do not have a regulatory body, and the AITA is it? headed by Jerry Barnett is sufficiently archaic as far as the internet is concerned in that one of their comments was ,"We do not agree with filesharing" crikey, I think they may have meant "Copyright Infringement" but the fact they didnt know the difference is worrying. (I realise of course the AITA has no power over anyone)

So I think this will be among my last posts here. I thank everyone

[bpaw]

OEJ Said: "Seems like the pair of you have answered your own questions and it is wasted on this forum. if it has any validity then perhaps you should vent these defenses where they count."

Probably. But this "dancing around the fire" that we do hasn't made me feel too hot.

My original question is still valid, and this forum is kind of appropriate to the audience. There may be not many contributors, but there are readers. These readers may or may not be swayed by these conversations.

It is fine that Mr Becker tells xbiz that we tell mistruths and lies. It all sounds so good for him, especially with his recent victory. It is just another piece of strategy. A strategy where he knows many people reading his words won't read this forum.

In all honesty OEJ, I don't do this to judge you, bait you, argue with you or even tell you how much I despise "Speculative Invoicing". I do this because you answer, and the only person in all this who answers. I do appreciate that because you have given us dialogue.

A lot of the harsh words that have been exchanged has been because each side has a certain passion for our own cause. We have spent a lot of time to investigate all this and have real evidence. I have said many times that what you are involved in is tarnished by Alireza Torabi and Clem Vogler.

The other aspect in all this is that GEIL will send out letters and there will be much publicity. I feel that this forum is quite a good place to keep people aware of all that is happening. You never know, it all might turn out good for you OEJ!

[Hickster]

Just noticed that "R. P. Films Limited" have been dissolved, this is interesting, but not unexpected as we are dealing with duplicitous people here. Basically "R. P. Films Limited" should NOT have been party to the original hearing OR the appeal, as to dissolve a company they must not take part in any action for a number of months prior to the voluntary strike off.

I wonder why Golden Eye did not point this out to the Court. I also wonder who will now receive the proceeds of any money recouped by GEIL?

For a company that was dissolved 15/05/2012 this seems rather strange.

BTW @OEJ, do you know these people? http://www.relishfilms.com/index.php?ro ... ation_id=4

[one eyed jack]

Relish??? Who doesnt know Relish would have to be very new to the business. theyve been going for years

Duplicitous people Hickster??? Let he who is without sin cast the first stone here please

That could apply to nearly everyone who is hiding behind a pseudonym. You both know who I am what i look like and probably a lot more but I still have no idea who you or bpaw are...Yet we are dealing with duplicitous people???

Thats mighty judgemental since you are not giving anything away about yourselves but here we stand being judged, accused and derided by faceless individuals using aliases

[Hickster]

@OEJ

I didn't say YOU were duplicitous, but GEIL most certainly are.

It is interesting that a couple of those "studios" in the appeal are dissolved, and should have been declared as they should not have been permitted to be allowed their "Voluntary strikeoff"

You OEJ have actually been quite candid and I appreciate that.

The Studio Relish are just one of the porn "Studios" thatACS:LAW and MEDIA C.A.T were acting for. I am surprised they have not joined this action.

I say GEIL are liars, because they are, they have made statements that are untrue. They have also lied by omission.

I have challenged you after you alluded to me being a "Troll" and spreading "Propaganda", to show me ANYWHERE where I have stated something that was not true. You offered no evidence.

I On the other hand have produced much evidence with regard to the mistruths of GEIL.

Who am I who hides behind a pseudonym? I am Joe Hickster. If you want more, then do what I did, and find it. Neither you nor anyone else offered me anything, I had to find it. I kept my word to you and have not posted anything on my Blog with regards to you.

Becker is now off to the US, as if we didnt know that would happen, he has to of course, he needs as much to keep this going, and I dont think he will get much more. His "Victory" is no more than ACS:LAW ever achieved, only thing he did get was the Court to sell people info to the highest bidder.

2013 will be a VERY interesting year, but at least now, I know why Becker wont target the Tube Sites, and that only come from me finding it myself!

[one eyed jack]

Is Joe Hickster youre real name then?

I admit I cant say anything about someone I dont know about but its the personal nature of your attacks on Ben ie him being old, his stuff being crap, desperate to make money from old crap. ..Thats subjective. Hes had a lot of fans over the years and at one point was hailed on here as if he could do no wrong. The man I know looked anything but desperate.

Whenever I make attacks on people I never make it personal like that which has me wondering if there was something else at play between you both.

I have no problem with you opposing GEIL but I tend to think things go off topic when it gets personal.

I just googled Joe Hickster and came up with a lot of links. Are you Joe Hickster from Jamaica??? !laugh!

Isnt Joe Hickster another alias for John Doe? It would be nice to know whom I am speaking to but its not important outside of this I guess

[BGAFD Admin]

Golden Eye porn producer seeks to widen piracy blitz

[bpaw]

I have said before OEJ that you made yourself public before all this. It is probably because it has given you closeness to your consumers. It is probably similar to the material you have produced. It may be no use producing your material then being an anonymous person. Do ?bare? in mind that many of the other producers choose to be anonymous like we are.

Fair enough, you did that. I feel you extend that in this also. I am making a presumption here that you extended dialogue with us because of your nature. Please don?t attach such nature to Hickster and me. I would suggest (And is completely my opinion) that if Hickster was so generous with his personal profile with ACS:Law, then he / she would not be here now (In a legal sense, of course!).

I have to admit myself that some posts on here from me are not to you, but through you. I also admit that I was swayed by others because I don?t know adult material consumers too well. I have seen others who purchase this material and slag off Ben Dover Productions. I have now seen that Ben Dover Productions is the top seller. Where are we with this?

Boil it down, and you see quotes from Lindsay Honey that he can?t make money out of porn and he has to make money from downloaders. There are also other quotes from him mentioned before of his ?poverty?. So what is it? Come on OEJ. If people seeing this get confusing messages of Ben Dovers lack of sales whilst also being the most popular producer, what do you think?

I don?t believe it is you that is the problem, and I don?t believe that it is you who is responsible for the problem (Well maybe a little!). I don?t believe it is specifically Julian Becker that is the problem. It is ?Speculative Invoicing?. It just so happens to be Julian Becker who is the spokesman at this moment, and he is the target.

But let us define target, just so Julian again doesn?t feel that ?keyboard warriors? are spreading ?mistruths and lies?.

We (As in the collective opponents of ?Speculative invoicing?) see anyone / organisation using this method as wrong. Our opinion is based on evidence, not simply because we are innocent of what we were accused of. We also see that GEIL were neutered in Court by the Judge who said that innocents will be targeted. We have also seen that a Judge who presided over the ACS:Law ?Default judgements? ripped apart the evidence that was brought in front of him. We have seen the ?Expert witness? say that he self-professes himself as not an expert. We have seen the results from ISPs providing the subscriber details from monitored IP addresses showing 25% or more unknowns.

Julian Becker says to the media ?mistruths and lies?. I say that we provide evidence. Because of this, I say that Julian spreads ?mistruths and lies? about us.