Meatus: "The Meatus version: "They all approached the house together were they all saw a figure at the window with a gun"
The police version: ?At one point we thought we saw someone moving in the house but, when we checked, it was the moon?s reflection in the window.? "
Which police version? Which officers said that? And when? Was there original statements? or Revised statements? Was it made at the trial? Who said that which you quote?
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Nothing was ever said at the original trial on this matter, either by the defence or the prosecution.
Jeremy Bamber made the claim about seeing someone sometime after the original trial. Sgt Bews refuted the claim as above.
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Meatus: "the facts of this case have not proved one way or another beyond "Reasonable Doubt" that Jeremy Bamber is Guilty of the murder of his family at White House Farm on that night."
How many times has his case been reviewed now? 7 or 8 isn't it and always the same outcome.
How many times has his case been reviewed now? 7 or 8 isn't it and always the same outcome.
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Meatus: "I also think being knowledgable about the case JamesW that even you would agree there are some glaring holes in the case?"
I'm not aware of any.
If there were glaring holes in the case Bamber's continued appeals would have succeeded by now.
I'm not aware of any.
If there were glaring holes in the case Bamber's continued appeals would have succeeded by now.
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Meatus: "in all accounts i have read the police believe that Jeremy Bamber walked and crossed through a field to commit the killing and then broke into the house quietly to commit the act. So if they think it was possible that Jeremy broke into the house, isn't it entirely possible that someone else could have?"
No, not according to Jeremy Bamber. The defence and prosecution agreed at the original trial that either Sheila or Jeremy was the killer. Jeremy Bamber has continually argued since then that he knows that Sheila was the killer and there was no possibility of anyone else being involved. Remember that Jeremy's story is that his father called him in the middle of the night and said that Sheila was running amok with a gun. Having said that, he can hardly say well maybe it wasn't Sheila, it was someone else.
As I noted far above, the Bamber case is very unusual in that the prosection and the defence are in agreement that only 2 explanations of the case are possible. The first is the prosecution case that Jeremy Bamber had planned to shoot and did shoot the 5 members of his family, and the second, the defence case, is that Sheila ran amok and shot the 4 members of her family and then committed suicide.
No, not according to Jeremy Bamber. The defence and prosecution agreed at the original trial that either Sheila or Jeremy was the killer. Jeremy Bamber has continually argued since then that he knows that Sheila was the killer and there was no possibility of anyone else being involved. Remember that Jeremy's story is that his father called him in the middle of the night and said that Sheila was running amok with a gun. Having said that, he can hardly say well maybe it wasn't Sheila, it was someone else.
As I noted far above, the Bamber case is very unusual in that the prosection and the defence are in agreement that only 2 explanations of the case are possible. The first is the prosecution case that Jeremy Bamber had planned to shoot and did shoot the 5 members of his family, and the second, the defence case, is that Sheila ran amok and shot the 4 members of her family and then committed suicide.
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"Is he posting here?!!!"
In answer to mrmcfister, no Jeremy is not posting here. The views of Meatus are significantly different to those of Jeremy Bamber. The last point above is a good example, as Jeremy Bamber and his defence lawyers have continually argued that Sheila was the killer and that Jeremy knows this for a fact, but Meatus tries to claim that someone else could have done it.
See also the claim by Meatus that Jeremy arrived at the farmouse before the police, compared to Bamber's own story that he arrived after the police because unlike the police he was careful not to break the speed limit.
In answer to mrmcfister, no Jeremy is not posting here. The views of Meatus are significantly different to those of Jeremy Bamber. The last point above is a good example, as Jeremy Bamber and his defence lawyers have continually argued that Sheila was the killer and that Jeremy knows this for a fact, but Meatus tries to claim that someone else could have done it.
See also the claim by Meatus that Jeremy arrived at the farmouse before the police, compared to Bamber's own story that he arrived after the police because unlike the police he was careful not to break the speed limit.
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"No tests were carried out on Jeremy Bamber hands."
Why weren't there test's carried out on Jeremy Bambers hands? As stated by you officers suspected Bamber immediately and thought his answers seemed rehearsed? Surely it would have been beneficial to test his hands?
Why weren't there test's carried out on Jeremy Bambers hands? As stated by you officers suspected Bamber immediately and thought his answers seemed rehearsed? Surely it would have been beneficial to test his hands?
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"No, that is incorrect. Many fingerprints on the bible belonged to June Bamber, whose bible it was. The rest were too smudged to be identified."
But there is no indication that any of the prints are Jeremy Bambers?
But there is no indication that any of the prints are Jeremy Bambers?
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"No, not true. The police have always said very clearly that this claim is not true. There were 2 police logs that night, but both referred to the same call. The police have always rubbished Bamber's claims that because there were 2 logs there must have been 2 calls. As the police have stated throughout, there was one call and one call only."
Why do you believe the police? They are less likely to lie aren't they? Especially as there is documentation that proves they are lying!
Why do you believe the police? They are less likely to lie aren't they? Especially as there is documentation that proves they are lying!
Re: Jeremy Bamber
"Jeremy Bamber made the claim about seeing someone sometime after the original trial. Sgt Bews refuted the claim as above."
Why believe Sgt. Bews & not Jeremy Bamber? What is your reason for this? Sgt. Bews is a bastion of truth? I mean i'm sure he's never told a lie, especially when his whole career rested on the outcome of the trial and a guilty verdict and then of course the verdict not being overturned. He has no reason to lie has he?
Why believe Sgt. Bews & not Jeremy Bamber? What is your reason for this? Sgt. Bews is a bastion of truth? I mean i'm sure he's never told a lie, especially when his whole career rested on the outcome of the trial and a guilty verdict and then of course the verdict not being overturned. He has no reason to lie has he?
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"How many times has his case been reviewed now? 7 or 8 isn't it and always the same outcome."
How many times have countless other cases been reviewed with the same outcome? The Court of Appeal are not renowned for overturning Guilty verdicts!
How many times have countless other cases been reviewed with the same outcome? The Court of Appeal are not renowned for overturning Guilty verdicts!