Derek Hay a.k.a Ben English . . . .

[planeterotica]

Put English into any porn search hoping it will throw up a Brit film and this guy appears, so he must have done something right !wink!

[DanG]

Ben English/Derek Hay is the worst sort of scum...


























...a Spurs fan!

[jj]

supsim96 wrote:
> did I say anything was "wrong" JJ?
The context seemed to imply a degree of disapprobation. As
I'm sure you're aware, it's sometimes hard to read people's
intent : -)


> There is an argument that Agents are "parasites" - people who
> earn good money off the talents and hard work of others whilst
> striving very little themselves in the process . . . .
Well, they've certainly marred my enjoyment of football. I was no
fan of the minimum wage but the pendulum has swung too far
the other way.

[supsim96]

I was with a mate from Nottingham in an Amsterdam bar on Cup Final day, May 1991. Forest were playing Spurs. Man Utd had beaten Barca in the Cup Winners Cup the preceding Wednesday and a lot of their fans had made it along to Amsterdam after that night to have some extended partying. For my sins, I support Watford and so was naturally supporting Forest. The Mancs also all wanted Nottingham to win.

Pete turned to me half way through the first half and asked:

"Why is it that everyone fucking hates Tottenham?"

A bloody good question I'd say . . . . . . . .

[one eyed jack]

So is this all about Derek supporting Spurs???? Therefore he is bad for it?

If Derek is bad for making a lot omoney and doing "very little for it" then my answer to that is...He has also made a lot of girls a lot of money.

Out of all honesty, a lot fo the flak he gets stateside is out of sheer jealousy.

I'm sure he had to do a lot of things to get where he is and the fact you dont see him doing much for it indicates he must be doing it well to make it look effortless.

[supsim96]

whoever said he was "bad"?! i merely asked if he was a good bloke or not!

[Sam Slater]

You implied he was a 'parasite', did you not?

[supsim96]

I said some people make an argument that agents are parasites, yes.

As a professional person, I am aware that it is wholly inappropriate to get "emotionally involved" with someone you're working with for business.

I note that Mr Hay has had relationships with at least three of his clients:

Nikki Jayne
Hannah Harper
Brooke Haven

Maybe it's different in porn though, could there be some merit in having intimate knowledge of a person's sexual performance whilst representing them as a porn agent?

[Sam Slater]

Relationships in porn are hardly surprising. Given that lots of men and women wouldn't like to get romantically involved with a partner who had sex with numerous people for a living I think it pretty natural for performers to become involved off set.

[supsim96]

sure, performers yes.

but an agent too?