The rise of the British National Party...

[Guilbert]

>the same racist scaremongering occured at the turn of the last century when the jews of europe came here to escape persecution

And how many jews came here, hundreds, maybe a few thousand ?

and how many immigrants have come here in the last 10 years, it is probably in the millions.

Some difference eh !

Did those Jews try to change the UK ?

Did they preach hate on the street about the British ?

Did they plant bombs on trains and buses ?

Did they go round pushing drugs and shooting each other ?

No they came here (along with the poles and others after the war) and quietly integrated themsleves and got on with their lives.

THAT is the difference.

[wayne]

Dont bother moving to Esses if your considering "white flight" as frankly you will be moving to an area that is well on the way to where you have left!.

[colonel]

max_tranmere wrote:

All it took
> was one employment agency in Crewe to start advertsing in
> Eastern Europe and before long there was a large Polish
> population in Crewe - with Polish shops springing up aswell.
> That employment agency just took it upon themselves to advetise
> for factory and farm workers abroad - these people were not
> political decision makers, just people who ran a company, yet
> had the power to hugely change an area.

Same in Herefordshire- which now has huge Eastern European populations, but had had no influx since Saxon times...and the same reason, a strawberry grower seeking cheap labour.

The result? The Poles/Lithuanians realised that they were being ripped off and put their prices up. He went bust and meanwhile local teenagers fell in love, got jiggy and had babies. So now you have Eastern Europeans living in Herfs for keeps and some Herfs girls going back to Poland with their fellas- must be mad!

[colonel]

max_tranmere wrote:

> Agreed. They do the low paid jobs that others wont do. But most
> people's issue is with the numbers. We are presently being
> swamped.

Now- do you oppose the BNP or support them? Remind me again.

[beutelwolf]

colonel wrote:

> The result? The Poles/Lithuanians realised that they were being
> ripped off and put their prices up. He went bust and meanwhile
> local teenagers fell in love, got jiggy and had babies. So now
> you have Eastern Europeans living in Herfs for keeps and some
> Herfs girls going back to Poland with their fellas- must be
> mad!

No, it's called Europe!

[max_tranmere]

colonel. To answer your question, I do not support the BNP. I am, however, against the present levels of immigration as it is changing this country forever and we also don't have the room. We are also importing lots of criminals and many inner city areas in the UK are turning into Los Angeles (gang members gunning each other down each day, etc). The BNP have the same views on wanting immigration hugely reduced. I don't support that party, I do however have the same view as them on that particular issue. I think you will find the vast majority of people in the UK have that view aswell.

[one eyed jack]

To those that deny the holocaust even happened then what the fuck was Belsen and Auschwitz all about then????

Even if it was some fantastic hoax do you think the jewish people would just make that up as a grandiose sob story? Its not difficult to prove seeing that it happened some 70 years ago. Its not like piecing the bones together of some dinosaur proving evolution is it?

People who spout that negative tripe should get a fat fist in the face for being racist and ignorant.

Yes the act of punching someone in the face makes it equally ignorant therefore its one ignorant act well deserving another.

I guess two wrongs do make it right in the end on that one.

I'm not jewish in the slightest (though one notorious lady person of controversy has accused me of being a secular one many moons ago). The holocaust denial thing just winds me up.

How people can treat human beings worse than a cow in a McDonalds factory is just beyond my scope of thinking.

I just hate hate.

[max_tranmere]

I believe that it is now an offence to deny the Holocaust anyway. Not only is it nasty to do that, but it is also pointless. I mean, what do some of these far-right people think they will get out of doing that? What purpose does Holocaust Denial proove?

[Mojo]

"Scotland is in the UK"

Only when it suits THEM; when they're taking our taxes and want some power over us and with the Yanks. If it wasn't for us they would be a backwater flea pit who no one would care dickens about.

"Scotland had English PMs from 1964 to 2007, so why can't England have a Scots one for a bit"

Because now they have their own parliament and have say over most of what they do (ALL of what they do if you take into account most of the Nu Labour government are Scots). If they didn't have their present independence of convenience then I'd say sure, they've got as much right as us to have MPs in Westminster. But they now have this half way house independence; all the benefits of independence (our taxes, use of our military and power in Westminster) but none of the disadvantages, like standing on their own two feet without hanging onto our apron strings. Things must change with this leeching off of us. They hate us and want independence? Then they should go all the way like the Yanks, Canadians, Aussies, Kiwis etc. did. If they do want the use of our parliament, armed forces and our taxes then they should give FULL power back to Westminster. They shouldn't have it both their own way. To have the situation as it presently stands is akin having Canadians in the US Congress and as President of the US. How many Yanks would put up with that?

"So you can live without hydroelectric power, oil, gas, nuclear defence etc. etc....? dream on...."

You really do believe all the propaganda the Scots put out about ?their? oil, don't you? In actual fact, if you look up the rules on international waters then you'll see that all those oilrigs out in the North Sea are way outside Scottish territorial waters. We should have our own power stations and those subs are OURS, not Scottish subs. OUR subs are just based up there because Scottish ministers in OUR parliament put OUR subs up there. Me, I?d base OUR English subs down in Portsmouth, Plymouth or Portland, not in what I and many other English nationalists (and Scottish nationalists) now consider a foreign country.