Barry George found Not Guilty

[Jonone]

One senior Scotland Yard source said the not guilty verdicts posed two dilemmas for the force: how do they limit the damage to its reputation, and how they could tear up all their work so far and effectively admit they had pursued the wrong man for eight years.

"It's not good for us. The fact the jury took 13 hours to acquit means they were utterly convinced he was not guilty," the source said. "The fact he has previous bad character will help protect the organistaion and weather the storm." The source added: "Are they really going to say to Hamish Campbell, 'we're going to disembowel your investigation and see where it went wrong'? ... It probably needs an external force to reinvestigate."


This contextualises the significance of George's 'previous bad character'. It's useful in PR terms and you're happy to go along with it.

[steve56]

He was stalking another woman so he didnt do it sounds iffy to memrmcfister wrote:

> Fucking hell Jonone..you have certainly made a leap there.The
> bloke's a creep whether he did it or not.Read about about him
> on Wiki and its links for instance and you'll see the quality
> of the man.Not sure if you are male or female but if the latter
> then if you were subject of one of his stalkings then you may
> not be so willing to stand up for him...oh and by the way his
> defence made a lot of low his IQ and his alleged inability to
> plan..read todays screws and it gives another example of his
> strange behaviour towards vulnerable women

[jimslip]

Any self respecting "Nutter" would have hacked or at least stabbed poor Jill to death as many times as his stamina would take. He certainly wouldn't be happy with one bullet to the head (i believe) no fun for a nutter in that!

This is another case of, if you're the local wierdo, hope to death there's never a murder near you, because the police will simply fit the evidence, whatever it may be, to you.

This case and others ensures that hanging will never be returned.

[mrmcfister]

The police will rarely say they got it wong unless it is obvious or they are in a tight corner.Clearly they believed they had the right man here but it is the CPS that direct prosecutions.There was no DNA evidence in this case.There was some forensic evidence that was discounted by the judge at this latter trial.Without it there was a lot of circumstantial evidence that did not prove the case beyond reasonable doubt.The jury rightly found him ?Not Guilty?. I say again in the cosiness of this forum that IMHO that does not mean he is innocent.I do not know whether he is or not.Perhaps only he does? What I can say and again it is my opinion nothing more is that this man has something of the night about him.Yes he may have personality flaws and be in need of support but I for one would not like to be stood in front of him on an underground station as a train pulls in.I have no idea what goes on in his mind but he has some nasty history to him and the public have a right to be protected from his ilk.If someone says to me ?Give him a chance? I say ?No?.That makes us different it does not make me right or wrong?remember too the real victim in all of this ..and her family and loved ones..

[planeterotica]

George would make a good James Bond !wink!

[Jonone]

So Barry George isn't a 'real' victim ? If you've ever been accused of something you didn't do think about the sense of indignation you felt and think about the consequences for Barry George. You seem to think 8 years is neither here nor there ! You wouldn't be so blase if it was you or yours. Do you not think Barry George has 'loved ones' too? What do you suppose was his sister's motivation ?

The fact that you mention the underground suggests you live in London and that the underground is part of your routine. Perhaps your fear and anxiety goes with the territory of living in the capital, but boy do you sound frightened which isn't a healthy place to be in.

[planeterotica]

Jonone wrote:

> So Barry George isn't a 'real' victim ? If you've ever been
> accused of something you didn't do think about the sense of
> indignation you felt and think about the consequences for Barry
> George. You seem to think 8 years is neither here nor there !
> You wouldn't be so blase if it was you or yours. Do you not
> think Barry George has 'loved ones' too? What do you suppose
> was his sister's motivation ?
>
> The fact that you mention the underground suggests you live in
> London and that the underground is part of your routine.
> Perhaps your fear and anxiety goes with the territory of living
> in the capital, but boy do you sound frightened which isn't a
> healthy place to be in.

planeterotica wrote:

I was banged up for a while in Clover Hill, which if you dont know is apparently the toughest prison in Ireland, it was just a missunderstanding with the Garde,i was eventually let loose doubtless to the relief of others, but on my escape sorry i mean release i am now taking the Irish Republic to the EEC Commission, there is more dosh in being wrongfully arresseted than there is in making porn

[mrmcfister]

Jonone,you clearly believe this man to not have done it.No, I do not live in London and no I am big enough not to feel anxious or frightened.I say again the real victim here is the dead girl and her family.George will be rewarded handsomely for the lack of evidence here....in my perfect world George would still be in jail for the shit he did already which makes me different from you..

[Sam Slater]

[quote]I say again the real victim here is the dead girl and her family.[/quote]

If Barry George is innocent, then the victim and her family's sense of justice was a fake justice......and an innocent man was imprisoned.

This makes two sets of victims instead of one, and a killer uncaught, a killing unavenged.

[Jonone]

McFister, you directed me to Wiki to read about George and what I saw were some acquitals, some cases dropped, a three month suspended sentence, and 23 months served of a 33 month sentence. (It's customary is it not to serve about half the sentence .. maybe when George was convicted it was more like two thirds). He would have been released on licence and had he breached that he would have served the remainder of the sentence.

You say "in my perfect world George would still be in jail for the shit he did already". That does indeed make me very different from you because in my view he's served ALL the time that was due to him in relation to the offences for which he has been tried and found guilty AND a further eight years for a miscarriage of justice. In your 'perfect' world you seem to wish to arbitrarily put people behind bars because you don't like them or they give you the creeps. Do you not think that people should legitimately feel uneasy if they were standing in front of you on a tube platform, particularly if you didn't like the look of them ?