Youth Killed in Bakery Row

[Peter]

No, but if they were appealing for witnesses, it would make sense, to narrow the field by asking for anyone seeing a young male of mixed race/dark complexion running towards the high street at 12.45, rather than having lines clogged with people reporting white/light complexion people.

The talk at the garage where I had my MOT done today was that they didn't mention colour because it was a sensitive 'community relations' issue. Maybe bollocks, but its how these things get out of hand.

[kinetic]

Where it happened is actually a "whiter" part of Lee/Lewisham and the estate next to where it happened is very white.

There is the possibility the police don't want to discuss too much until they have questioned the main witness who only came forward recently. Better if they can identify who it is first as my guess is that its a known local face.

[spider]

Exactly that - why didn't they mention race, approx age, height, weight, colour/type of clothing?

I can manage without his star sign thanks.

Watched Sky news tonight and it's becoming clearer why it was so vague.

The Police know the name of who they want to talk to about this; it's just a case of finding the toe rag now.

They weren't really looking for any more help from the public.

Let's hope they get the little bastard soon.

[mrmcfister]

This is more like it from Monday.......two black youths were seen to run off after stabbing a man to death in Oxford Street yesterday..apparently the victim,a security guard had earlier chucked them out of the shop...our two brave heroes then apparently returned,stabbed him and slit his throat .

Better this than being 'dissed'....

[Officer Dibble]

Yes, another day another death. Once again it seems the BBC were reticent about giving out a proper description of the attackers (what are they afraid of?). Thankfully the Current Bun had no such qualms.



And rightly so - because it may be you or your loved ones next. If there's anything that needs stabbing it's apathy. So who will take these mindless sociopaths on? Is there anyone with the political will or balls to diss them so much that they?d be afraid to drop a fag packet in the street?




Officer Dibble

[Sam Slater]

The 'current bun' did have such qualms. They just quoted an 'unnamed' witness, which isn't the same as them themselves saying it.

[Jonone]

It's good of Boris talking about technology that isn't yet 'onstream'. It looks like a decisive response which is something you would expect of a leader, until you consider the caveat .. it's not 'onstream' and if it was it would probably have huge cost implications.

If, as a driver or station staff you challenged a youth because they were carrying would you be disrespecting them and thereby putting yourself at risk? Would stations and some bus routes need a near permanent Police presence ? How much would that cost ?

If you read books like 'The Tipping Point' and 'Freakonomics' they mention Guiliani's clean-up of New York and don't fail to mention that the ideas were John Bratton's and not Guiliani's. What they don't say is what was the additional cost? It's a cost worth paying to make the streets safer and save lives, but it might test the people of London's resolve if they're expected to foot some of the bill. Yes, Boris might protect you from your worst nightmares but in order to do so he'll probably want you to put your hand in your pocket.

[Officer Dibble]

"The 'current bun' did have such qualms. They just quoted an 'unnamed' witness, which isn't the same as them themselves saying it."

Whether the witness was named or unnamed - the point is they said it, they aired it, and they put it in the public domain. They published and be dammed. They gave us a crucial snippet of news that a hitherto respected news organization thought it better to omit. It's come to something when you have to reply on the Currant Bun to give you the full picture.




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[Sam Slater]

Ah, but if it turned out that this 'unnamed witness' was a lying fucker, with it turning out the culprits were white, no one would give a shit what the The Sun printed. Sensationalism is first priority in the tabloids, not objectivity and fact. The BBC, on the otherhand, are held in higher regard, by most generations -and classes- and so have to be more careful.

The 'current bun' might turn out to be accurate, but I don't blame the BBC for withholding something if they're not sure of the facts.

[randyandy]

Interesting view you have there of the BBC Sam.

A while back some 'people' were arrested in a Police operation on terrorism.

When the 'shocked community,' as the BBC put it, were asked to give an opinion all those interviewed belonged to a certain ethnic minority. The slant being its because of their colour / race etc.

It was by coincidence, no doubt, the top story.

When the 'people' arrested got convicted the members of the 'shocked community' interviewed for their opinion suddenly became white.

The story well done the pecking order.

Colour and race should be irrelevant but I've noticed when the BBC discuss, report or look at it its done with a motive.