By the way.
Do any of you realise that if a Polish person comes to work here in the UK, and they have a wife and children back in Poland, they can claim CHILD BENEFIT for those children !
Thats right, your UK tax is being used to pay child benefit to children living in Poland.
What a stupid situation.
Another example of why being part of the EU is so ridiculous.
And of course SOME Poles get the benefit twice, once over here, and once over there:
Still I am sure none of you mind paying tax to support children in Poland.
More Money For Immigrants?
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Deuce Bigolo
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Re: More Money For Immigrants?
Yes some will take advantage of soft policies that scream to be abused
but only because their too stupid to see what a little bit of dedication & hard work can achieve
We've got a good one in OZ that says to claim unemployed benefits you need only apply for 10 jobs a fortnight.Blind freddy could do that in an afternoon.Of course its not hard to turn the potential employer off by sabotaging the interview...tell em everything they don't want to hear
In OZ we recently(July 1st) said anyone on benefits for incapacity/single parents had to start looking for work................only 12-15 hours a week
but only because their too stupid to see what a little bit of dedication & hard work can achieve
We've got a good one in OZ that says to claim unemployed benefits you need only apply for 10 jobs a fortnight.Blind freddy could do that in an afternoon.Of course its not hard to turn the potential employer off by sabotaging the interview...tell em everything they don't want to hear
In OZ we recently(July 1st) said anyone on benefits for incapacity/single parents had to start looking for work................only 12-15 hours a week
Re: More Money For Immigrants?
Who constitute this mysteriously powerful group?
Mart
Mart
Re: More Money For Immigrants?
warren zevon rip wrote:
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Thing is wazza, although immigrants ARE beneficial in some areas where there are plenty of jobs to be had, in other areas they DO place a strain on services etc. etc. and claim benefits.
This is something all the political parties recognise and agree on - even your beloved New Labour (although granted they're always careful to couch their reservations in nice language and try to put a positive spin on the situation so as not to "offend" anyone).
Having reservations about immigration has nothing to do with supporting the BNP (indeed that's a cheap-shot tactic that you and others of like mind often employ to try and stifle debate on the subject by trying to "shame" people into not disagreeing with you).
Indeed - you seem to be the only one here who thinks that an uncontrolled immigration free-for-all is actually a **good** thing and that tolerating anything less is "racist". You constantly harp on about "oh, the labour market will sort it out, no need to worry", but everyone knows that's utter bollocks - even your beloved Gordon Browne.
Yes - controlled immigration to tackle emplyoment shortages (be they skilled or unskilled) is GOOD. The people coming over get jobs, pay their taxes and knucke down. No problem.
But just having an "open-door" policy for any FOREIGN "sofa-dwelling fuckwit" (to borrow your own turn of phrase) who wants to come over, claim state benefits and / or commit crime is BAD BAD BAD. And that latter scenario seems to be the situation the UK's in right now - the government hasn't got a fucking clue how many people it's letting in.
- Eric
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Thing is wazza, although immigrants ARE beneficial in some areas where there are plenty of jobs to be had, in other areas they DO place a strain on services etc. etc. and claim benefits.
This is something all the political parties recognise and agree on - even your beloved New Labour (although granted they're always careful to couch their reservations in nice language and try to put a positive spin on the situation so as not to "offend" anyone).
Having reservations about immigration has nothing to do with supporting the BNP (indeed that's a cheap-shot tactic that you and others of like mind often employ to try and stifle debate on the subject by trying to "shame" people into not disagreeing with you).
Indeed - you seem to be the only one here who thinks that an uncontrolled immigration free-for-all is actually a **good** thing and that tolerating anything less is "racist". You constantly harp on about "oh, the labour market will sort it out, no need to worry", but everyone knows that's utter bollocks - even your beloved Gordon Browne.
Yes - controlled immigration to tackle emplyoment shortages (be they skilled or unskilled) is GOOD. The people coming over get jobs, pay their taxes and knucke down. No problem.
But just having an "open-door" policy for any FOREIGN "sofa-dwelling fuckwit" (to borrow your own turn of phrase) who wants to come over, claim state benefits and / or commit crime is BAD BAD BAD. And that latter scenario seems to be the situation the UK's in right now - the government hasn't got a fucking clue how many people it's letting in.
- Eric
Re: More Money For Immigrants?
Yes the companies say they cant get anyone to do the job for the wages they pay and to a point their being honest but if you realised how little they pay in the first place it isnt surprising.
If a decent wage was paid then they would get people but its cheap labour they want to keep their profits high and the true burden are then passed on to everyone to deal with.
People who dont have to worry about having their jobs being placed under threat by cheap labour or being forced out of where they live by rising rent prices because they do not have to live in those nasty cheap areas of towns or do those jobs which unskilled migrants do/go can afford to tar anyone who speaks out with the racist label and take the "moral highground"
If a decent wage was paid then they would get people but its cheap labour they want to keep their profits high and the true burden are then passed on to everyone to deal with.
People who dont have to worry about having their jobs being placed under threat by cheap labour or being forced out of where they live by rising rent prices because they do not have to live in those nasty cheap areas of towns or do those jobs which unskilled migrants do/go can afford to tar anyone who speaks out with the racist label and take the "moral highground"
Re: More Money For Immigrants?
Well Said.Guilbert wrote:
> >Our town is loving them - we get our buses driven, schools
> cleaned, >factories manned, checkouts staffed, buildings built,
> etc, etc.
>
> Whereas before they all came we had nobody to drive buses,
> dirty schools, nobody working in factories and on supermarket
> checkouts, and no buldings were built.
>
> Dont be so stupid.
>
> This mass immigration is a HUGE disaster for this country.
>
> People say it is because we have too many old people so we need
> young people to come here to work and support them.
>
> But what about when these 2 million new immigrants are old, do
> we have to bring in another 6 million to support THEM.
>
> And what about when THEY are old, another 18 million to support
> them.
>
> It is like some giant pyramid selling scheme, in the long term
> it just does not add up.
>
> Or do we hope these immigrants breed like rabbits, and if so we
> will have a huge child population made up of asians, blacks,
> poles, romanians etc. Oh the joy.
>
> Being in my late 50s I hope I am not around in 10 or 15 years
> time when 50% of the kids at UK schools are Muslim, and the
> population of this country is 70 or 80 million.
>
> From a great country to live in in the 1950s and 1960s, to a
> shit hole by 2020.
>
> Not the fault of the immigrants of course but succesive weak
> governent by the previous Tories (I can remember asylum seekers
> running under the channel tunnel when the tories were in power)
> and this Labour governement.
>
> I find it such a shame because it COULD have been a great
> country if we hadn't given it away.
>
>
> >Our town is loving them - we get our buses driven, schools
> cleaned, >factories manned, checkouts staffed, buildings built,
> etc, etc.
>
> Whereas before they all came we had nobody to drive buses,
> dirty schools, nobody working in factories and on supermarket
> checkouts, and no buldings were built.
>
> Dont be so stupid.
>
> This mass immigration is a HUGE disaster for this country.
>
> People say it is because we have too many old people so we need
> young people to come here to work and support them.
>
> But what about when these 2 million new immigrants are old, do
> we have to bring in another 6 million to support THEM.
>
> And what about when THEY are old, another 18 million to support
> them.
>
> It is like some giant pyramid selling scheme, in the long term
> it just does not add up.
>
> Or do we hope these immigrants breed like rabbits, and if so we
> will have a huge child population made up of asians, blacks,
> poles, romanians etc. Oh the joy.
>
> Being in my late 50s I hope I am not around in 10 or 15 years
> time when 50% of the kids at UK schools are Muslim, and the
> population of this country is 70 or 80 million.
>
> From a great country to live in in the 1950s and 1960s, to a
> shit hole by 2020.
>
> Not the fault of the immigrants of course but succesive weak
> governent by the previous Tories (I can remember asylum seekers
> running under the channel tunnel when the tories were in power)
> and this Labour governement.
>
> I find it such a shame because it COULD have been a great
> country if we hadn't given it away.
>
>