The most Extreme

[JackHorny]

Ilike this sentence...

"... but when a girl is really getting the living shit fucked out of her and knowingly encouraging it I can?t help finding this more interesting than watching the same old set up with the same girls time after time."

and it boils down to the inclusion of 3 words;

"knowingly encouraging it" - she isn't being FORCED through VIOLENCE - by actively encouraging a "hard fucking", she's consenting! She isn't being FORCED!!!

I myself am not against this sort of thing - I thing it does add something to the whole experience... it might not be to everybodies taste but INTENSE ACTION is fine by me - but NEVER FORCED and never violent!

As for the debate on whether porn encourages someone to seek out similar "real" experiences - who knows... there are arguments "for" and "against" - the similies that people often use don't really fit - yes, during Wimbledon the municipal tennis courts are packed and during the World Cup every kid and some grown men are takingto the park with a football... but Tennis and Football aren't illegal... Yes, there are some out there who will undoubtedly be influenced by porn, but is porn the trigger? I dare say they are already of that mindset and would probably committ the crime regardless of their viewing habits!

[escape]

And therein lies the problem,

No not people playing tennis? but it?s the whole implied forced / violence aspect of the content.

Where do you draw the line, if a girl knowingly signs up to do an aggressive and forced sex film, with her being an adult and knowing her own mind and not being coerced, tricked or intimidated in to doing it. Then what does that mean for the viewer, is he wrong or deviant in someway or is he just human and as such liable to have bad sides to his character as well as good.

It all comes down to supply and demand I suppose.

There will always be girls who for whatever their own reasons will submit to being part of this type of film and there will always be men who for whatever reason will want to watch these films.

It?s just the way humans are?

[escape]

I can see where Big John is coming from, even if to me it seems he has missed the whole point of the last part of the thread,

but if you take the opinion that anything apart from the normal view of porn is abusing the women involved then aren?t you really saying that any women involved in the adult industry in it?s many forms that has decided to take part in an aggressive forced sex film is incapable of knowing her own mind and as such making her own decision..

and isn?t it this attitude towards women that in the long run is far more degrading than just being honest and admitting to wanting to see a good hard fuck film.

[Paul L]

Normally I don't get tempted to reply to some of these threads, but Big John your attitude to women (and I think fellow humans) is disgusting.

How can you "want" to see someone get permanently injured and consider it enjoyable.

You must have no respect for women whatsoever.

I just hope that this type of film does not exist.

[escape]

Yeh? I agree with you Paul, that Big John is a bad bad man?

Bloody sickos like that give us all a bad name?.

[joe king]

Last House On The Left

if you want to see male on male abuse get Driller Killer

a bit innocent are we Paul?

[Paul L]

No, I just don't think it is normal to enjoy watching a women getting beaten up for someone else's sexual gratification.

[joe king]

interesting - there was a sexy torture scene in the Clint Eastwood film last night with Sonia Bragga (Clint in bondage), this was woman on man

what is normal? Normal is being a voyeur? Normal is taking pics of women in school girl outfits (sub-paedophilia).
If 50% of people like it is it normal? 75%? 25%?

Normal is what you say is normal.

[jj]

Most people conflate 'normality' with the desire to conform.