Facial Abuse - Any Girls Here Been There?

[Matt P]

A few people have said I should check this post out, to be honest I've not read all the posts as I'm sure I'm going cross more than a few opinions. I've had a long day.

I'm a passionate advocate of freedom of speech & expression but I'm equally passionate about the good treatment of people.
Personally I don't like this type of denigration but then different kicks from different tricks & I can't really imagine this as the most successful genre of porn.
I actually find some aspects of this disturbing & to me it raises the question of who exactly is this aimed at, I mean should we be thankful that it contains these thoughts/emotions within porn & offers a safe outlet for them, or concerned that such material may actually offer some sort of validity to act upon them in the real world?

Someone will have to correct me as I make a distintiction between being dominated & being abused. I sort of understand spanking, fem dom stuff etc for example as a dominant but then this stuff discribed with the deaf girl & the girls uncle just seems abusive & I think it's a little bit insulting to call it domination.

There's also a very marked differance between refering to performer as a "slut" & using childhood abuse or disability as a referance.

My real worry after reading some of this is there's always a danger of someone going too far & that's going to result in yet another nightmare story to justify "the evils of porn".

[Matt P]

Real or not I personally don't think it's right that a story of childhood abuse was used. I can't see how it adds to the eroticism of a scene & I'm worried about what imagination made that conection.

It would be incrediably hypocritical of me to condem it but I can't condone it as I think it represents the wrong side of porn.

I like to be dominant or submissive as the mood takes me but I'm never abusive towards my sexual partner.

[Ned]

As with everything else there are lines to be drawn and as long as all the "abuse" is entirely consenting, I have no real problem with it. It's not my cup of tea really but if everyone is aware of what's going on and has signed the contracts and taken the cash, let them have at it.

Nobody makes anyone watch it.

The thing I have an issue with, to slightly broaden things out a bit, is the way mainstream porn has gone in last few years. I don't really want to see women slapped around or throat fucked when I've settled down to watch porn unless I've made a conscious choice to go for an "extreme" DVD.

[one eyed jack]

My real worry after reading some of this is there's always a danger of someone going too far & that's going to result in yet another nightmare story to justify "the evils of porn".


Thats why this sort of thing is best left to those who are professional at it. I also think its done by those who see it as an escape from regular sex so therefore would have a safe word when to stop.

I recently filmed a domination session between a client and his mistress where the pain was getting too much and he used their safe word.

She immediately slowed down but was still in character doing so to keep the psychological aspect going. The option to stop was on his part but he just wanted a breather and it worked fine.

Pain and humiliation was his thing. I wasnt weirded out by it either because you can be remarkably detached filming behind a camera.

I sometimes wonder if the evils of porn are perpetrated by those who make the product or perpetuated by those who subscribe to it. Think about it. This is why the Extreme Porn Bill is so significant in going after those who buy/ own it than those who made it.

[TonyJames]

That doesn't sound good to be taking the piss out of girls like that. Do men really like to watch things like this?

[jamesr]

Ned wrote:

"The thing I have an issue with, to slightly broaden things out
a bit, is the way mainstream porn has gone in last few years. I
don't really want to see women slapped around or throat fucked
when I've settled down to watch porn unless I've made a
conscious choice to go for an "extreme" DVD."

I'm with you (mostly) on this one Ned. I think there is a direct relation between the 'level' of mainstream porn and the degradation of 'taboo'. Once upon a time a stripper would perform, tease, tantalise and slowly strip before revealing herself just prior to the lights going down. Nowdays a stripper is expected to be naked almost immediately, interact with the audience and out-do others with the extreme (pornographic) nature of her routine. The same is true in front of the camera and it all stems from the level of choice and access that we have.

Eroticism has died. Extremism has replaced it.

[one eyed jack]

Tony James wrote:

That doesn't sound good to be taking the piss out of girls like that. Do men really like to watch things like this?


Yes appears to be the answer Tony.

Maybe not the answer of those posting onhere but they are out there

[Bukkakefacepainter]

I have to say, I wanted to give the FA blokes a kicking after watching that scene with the deaf girl. Regarding the dialogue with the girl who was abused being acted - I am not sure it was. It seemed to cause genuine upset.