Facial Abuse - Any Girls Here Been There?

[one eyed jack]

I think its the depraved and that it is wrong lies in its appeal.

Remember back in the day when you first saw porn then your mate said he saw Animal Farm?...Theneveryone chuickled because no one could beat the bloke withhis cock up a chicken.

None of that extreme stuff is my thing at all but tell someone they shouldnt look at something then they will want to look at it more if not just for the curiousity factor then because people are so complex they end up liking something they never thought they would like and not understand why.

[Bukkakefacepainter]

"I enjoy dominating and humiliating women."

Everything I have ever done and ever will do is consensual and I see it as a harmless kink. Everything has to eb put in its context. That is my problem with Facial Abuse - their actions go beyind context and seem driven by a desire to completely fuck a woman up mentally. Not simply to enjoy kinky stuff in the heat of the moment.

I know why what I said rings alarm bells and, with hindsight, I would have made it more explicit what I meant. As it was, I sought to demonstrate that I am not against BDSM or kinky stuff per se, but that FA still disturbs me.

[Tequila_Woods]

I think i get what Bukkakefacepainter is getting at.

In a consensual D/s relationship then things like humiliating and degrading women (and men) is par for course. I love getting humiliated and degrading by my One, its hot, its fun and makes me go weak at the kness... "if its not rough it isn't fun"

Thats just what some people are into. Others are into the usual vanilla porn... french kiss, suck cock, lick pussy, missionary, doggy, cum shot style. Others like to watch things a little more extreme. It all depends on the sexual lifestyle you lead and your personal preferences.

Iv not seen the site, although ill be googling it in a minute. At the end of the day when a performer goes to a job she generally knows exactly what she's getting herself into. No-one "makes" her do anything. Shes getting paid for a job, its her choice whether she does it or not. If she moans after that she didnt like it then thats fair enough, but no-ones forced to do anything.

[jamesr]

".....but no-one's forced to do anything"

I fear that's not neccessarily true on FA. Take a look at most of the despcriptions and the preview footage. A lot of the girls look extremely upset, as confirmed by the descriptions. Once into a shoot, we all know that most of these girls would have been told that they wouldn't get their money if they didn't finish what they were being told to do.

I totally understand what OEJ says about the curiosity factor. He's right and the web is full of such 'artistic licence' topics. That does not make it right though. Where it goes wrong is that the guys running this continually refer to their pleasure at ruining girls repsect, characters, lives etc. Really? Ask yourselves, is that horny or interesting?

As for Alexis Silver being sick as a result of what she was being paid to do - then licking some of it up? Hmmm. I am drooling at the prospect of seeing that. NOT.

[one eyed jack]

Jamesr...Now you understand my analogy that porn stars are modern day gladiators

[Tequila_Woods]

I understand what you're saying but Alexis is a seasoned performer, she knows what shes doing. Surely the girls that are getting booked for this site are at least looking at the site before they go to the booking and seeing what its all about? Yeah, iv been told on a spanking shoot that if i didnt finish the first scene i wouldnt get paid. So then you make a decision to go ahead with it or not. There's always a choice. Not saying its right or wrong, but the choice is always there.

And yes, while i agree that seeing her licking up her own vomit isnt sth that you're into or want to see there are plenty out there that enjoy the domination factor of that act. Nothing wrong with that.

[pbphotography]

To be fair I think that these sites are made as they make a profit and that is the main reason.

I notice that there only appears to be one feamle performer/ producer (Tequila Woods) who has replied. I wonder if there is a reason for this.

If any of the others are female then I apologise.

With regards to this no one seems to have answered the question set for F A

Tequila has partly done so as has Essex Boys.

But can you answer the same questions for other jobs. These questions can be answered by both males and females.

How often have you gone to a job with the idea that it is one kind and when you arrived it was completely different.

Or when shooting a more robust shoot (trying to think of a way of asking this without causing offence to anyone at all) other similar type sites was it as rough as portrayed or has it been edited to look like this.

Was there opertunities to take time out etc.

Also a similar question if when doing a shoot you are asked to do something that you are really not cofortable with do you

1. Refuse
2. do it for money

How often does this happen?

How often do performers feel that they have been misled when going to shoots?

[one eyed jack]

If I can hazard a guess to your question...A LOT!

I lost count over the years how many times a girl was sent on a job from an agency thinking it was a straight suck and fuck video whenit was supposed to be an anal or dp scene.

Either agencies assumed that girls doing porn were ok with it or just simply neglected to tell them expecting it was the clients job to get over this most difficult hurdle.

Most girls dont even do anal in their personal lives but then expecting to do it with some stranger for an extra ?50 must feel a bit of a violation.

Ive always been upfront with everyone I shoot and normally only ask for anal with performers I am familiar with.

Always treat girls with the same respect you would want to be treated with if it was you in their position. Trust still has to be earned with models on shoots and people shouldnt just put everyhting down to money

[Bukkakefacepainter]

Thanks for the thoughts again. Tequilla hits the nail on the head regarding my own relationships, too. I love dominating and humiliating women in a consensual, sexual context.

There are a heck of a lot of blokes who also want to be sexually dominated and a lot of women who are professional dominatrixes that enjoy doing it.

As I say, all in context is fine.

[pbphotography]

Jack

I agree wholeheartedly with your comments about being upfront and building trust.

There is no excuse to not be honest and upfront.

Without the trust a performer will not give a good performance.