US Govt Indicts Max Hardcore

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Tinaka
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Re: US Govt Indicts Max Hardcore

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Nothing to do with children. Putting adult porn and child abuse in the same devision just gets them more support for going after porn. A porn department by itself would get next to no funding since most people don't care. Clinton prioritised child abuse over obscenity and was critised by the right wing for being politically correct.
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Personally, I don't see this an an attack on adult porn. Max "Paedo" Hardcore has been blatantly depicting the violent, sexual abuse of girls for years. Presumably there are many on this forum that applaud him. However, I think he endangers the legal standing of 99% of other producers who, are merely trying to turn a coin making porn which is generally acceptable to most people.

So I say say FRY THE BASTARD!

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LOL I don't think my name necessarily defines what kind of porn I make, if that was the case then "Ben Dover" would be a great hit in the gay community! Anyway no one is disputing the fact that shoolgirls are depicted in loads of porn, but most of us don't then slap them around and generally abuse them. What concerns me is that you have also fallen into the trap of suggesting that anyone who depicts a schoolgirl in their scenes is by definition on the same level as Max Hardcore.

Which is exactly what a judge and jury would do and in so doing condemn us all to be at the same level as Mr Hardcore. This is the problem with our image in wider society, we are contantly dragged down to the same level as scum like Max H.C. People like him turn the establishment's spot-light onto all of us and then gives them the tools to kick us with.

My only surprise is that Mr H.C. doesn't also depict the girls being murdered and then buried at the back of his garden, which I'm sure he'd do if it turned an extra Buck!

By the way I'm not an agent of George Bush or a Christian fundamentalist!

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VStrange
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Although 90% of the content I film myself would be classified as very softcore, I still run into people who lump all pornography together, and condemn it as a whole.

It is an odd business, and one that most people are not apt to defend publicly. Sex is one of those taboo subjects that most people aren't comfortable to discuss honestly, because no one wants to be judged. As long as one person is turned on by this, and someone else is turned on by that, then judging each other is inevitable, like it or not.

I personally don't believe that legal pornography and "child protection" should be lumped together, as there are already separate laws regarding each separately, but as was satated in an earlier post - politicians will always support laws and regulations that references child protection, or else it appears they do not want to protect children, so they have no choice.

This is all a slippery slope indeed. If a model were to accuse someone like MH of rape or abuse, then it would be a case worthy of some attention, but as the participants appear happy to be paid, and then move on, it is odd the government feels compelled to jump in, except of course to gain morality points with the religious right.

When WWIII comes about it will not be over pornography - it will be over oil and radical religions. If politicians want to "protect the children" then perhaps they should reintroduce the electric car as a start, and shove it in Big Oil's ugly face! As long as our governments answer to corporate interests instead of truth, then we are all doomed.

If pornography had lobbyists backing it, and was run by large corporations, then it would be as moral and righteous as tobacco pushers, weapon dealers, and those who profit from the death and pollution associated with big oil. All of those things are okay apparently, but sex and nudity is clearly evil.

I don't pretend to understand human sexuality at all, but I have met a load of women who seem to enjoy extreme and rough sexual situations, often choosing those types of assignments over regular scenes. Perhaps the rough sex fantasy is not 100% a male concept. If you look at the models who appear in some of the more extreme videos, you will often see the same girls over and over, so maybe some of them actually like it (gasp!).

There is a double standard , even within the world or porn. No one seems to care about femdom stuff, where the guy is being abused, used as an ashtray, spat on, kicked in the nuts etc., but if you were to reverse the roles of some of those scenes the morality police would be working overtime!

Sorry for the rant, but as long as people are dying over oil, and the planet itself is in peril, and the world powers do not force obvious corrections, like the electric car, solar panels, etc., then the focus on pornography is truly another distraction...
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Promote this link wherever you can.

Maybe it will help the world, at least a little...



Hopefully big oil does not crush this brilliant new company, like it did with earlier versions of the electric car.
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the sooner they ban the kind of crap max hardcore churns out, amongst a lot of other american porn producers the better in my opinion, the reason porn has such a bad name is because of these people
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"the sooner they ban the kind of crap max hardcore churns out, amongst a lot of other american porn producers the better in my opinion, the reason porn has such a bad name is because of these people"


It is true that there are a number of US producers who push the limits, and it may be a bad thing for the industry overall, but as far as hard S&M sites, femdom sites, extreme bukkake sites, fisting sites, spanking sites, pee sites, and many additionally controversial themes, including throat gagging.... lots of this content is now produced in Europe, Canada and the UK as well. Max and a few others are American, it is true, but most of US porn is not extreme.

I can easily list many non-US websites and non-US producers to prove my point, but no need to point fingers, as the statement "divided we fall" comes to mind...
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