the sad demise of britporn

[number 6]

I expect most on here have seen the original Hard Cut compilation of 80's brit porn hardcore all set to music,that compilation sums up exactly what porn was like and how good it really was. Hardcore was way more taboo back then hence seeing 80s girls getting shagged was far more of a turn on.

[Deuce Bigolo]

Wether the girls are quality or not,depends on who you compare them against and what your cpmapring them on,looks or performance

Nadia made some interesting comments in her avn interview
which really spells out the issue of Money being at the core

U.K. girls are dirtier than American girls.
"It depends on where you?re looking. If you?re looking for something, you?ll find it. I think, at the moment, the pay for girls in England is going down because of the Internet and magazines not having the money to pay photographers and, therefore, haven?t got the money to pay the girls. There are a lot of girls that are coming in that are competing for those smaller amounts of money, so they?re doing more and more to get the money. I don?t think it?s necessarily that they?re dirtier, but it?s more of a financial thing. Also, they?re new, so they don?t know where the lines are drawn beforehand. They?re just coming in, so they?re younger ? younger, more vulnerable, much more malleable and in need of cash."

Having said that even if the top shelf british totty of today(whoever they may be) did a porn film or 2 I wouldn't bother

I've seen all the big names from yesteryear doing the dirty and quite frankly its over rated IMHO

As for bad acting(no editing)I thought that was par for the course when it came to British Porn

cheers
B....OZ

[one eyed jack]

Number 6 wrote:

"...brit porn hardcore all set to music,that compilation sums up exactly what porn was like and how good it really was."

Hmmm, not really. I find music is often used to patch up the fact the director was telling the model what to do on camera throughout...Especially where the video runs in slow motion...but good is subjective to individual taste.

[bemused]

Oh dear, nobody's suggesting that all production should go one way, only that some should.

As for Brit Porn being in good shape, how come there are so many producers on here moaning on all the time about not making any money. Surely that must tell you something.

And Lucy, if you bothered to read the whole of this string you will see that I did say that there were a lot of notable exceptions, but you have to agree that it certainly doesn't apply accross the board. I guess if the cap fits...not you of course.

As for the bad acting, a good director can pull a good performance from pretty much anybody with a bit of care.

Further Lucy, you shouldn't jump to conclusions and reach for the sterotype bottle. I am not balding and certainly not unable to pull anything. In fact I am in a long term relationship with an ex porn star of the nineties who agrees with pretty much everything I'm saying.

[one eyed jack]

It tells me there is far too much product in an over saturated market place for anything to sell to full potential because people cant afford everything out there.

The british porn industry is thriving healthy as a collective, I guess there are some casualtys trying to get a fair share of the market place but being a producer yourself, you should know that the best selling videos dont indicate its the best actual video out there as the customer most often goes by what they see on the cover and other info that customer is interested in.

As with anything...if there is too much on the market the customer is spoilt for choice...Therefore what is good and not so good is subjective to the individual...You'd be surpirised what is selling well next to one that is not performing so well...Theres no cut and dried solution to this business at all...Unless you get a celebrity vid that sells on the basis of its notoriety.

The good thing about competition is that it keeps everyone on their toes and prompts them to make good product...Thing is, there are some in this business that dont have much experience about making videos other than picking up a camera and shooting everything other than waht the're supposed to be focussed on LOL!

I think that Brit porn is interesting and quite a few people are doing interesting things with it...Its far from a demise I think.

[davewells]

Wrong on that one tel, Rem did have the cream on the hard cuts series.

[bemused]

I'm sorry but I just don't see the breadth of choice you seem to think there is. Sure there's endless low rent stuff being produced every day but very little, if any, that a producer, director or actor could stand up and say that it'll pass the test of time. It's all so disposable. A bit like the wank it's supposed to induce, sometimes great sometimes not so great but always a bit of an empty feeling afterwards.
Strange thing about this string is the lack of female, or male for that matter, actor input, don't they have any opinions at all. I find this puzzling.

[davewells]

Simple bemused - all production should always go all ways as porn always has and always will. Terry, Marino and Lindsey have continously proved that with a (very) low budget erotica can be produced that is horny to look at.

The older ones of us moan because with the relaxation of the laws back in August 2000 we all thought - great at last we can do H/C legally and sell it without problems. How wrong we were ! Firstly there are 50 times the amount of people competing for a tiny market. Second the rules about selling it are amazingly limited. The time scale horrendous and even worse the returns are less and overheads more. Us old gits moan because this is all we've done for 20 odd years and at our age getting a 'proper' job ain't an option. Pass me a handkerchief please !!! Sob !!

As for bad acting. See my earlier comment - these people aren't actors that fuck. A good editor with a good director can hide a multitude of bad anythings.

[nachovx]

UK girls dirtier !!! ... maybe the few that get to the US are as dirty, but they don't in generally match the standards of the type of girls who pass thru the likes of Red-Light, Anabolic and other US pro-am gonzo productions. Producers like John Strong, Mark Woods, Mr Pete, Skeeter Kerkove ... get a continuous string of new girls who are natural and beautiful - the Brit scene is the same bunch of girls circulating round for ever and a day. I've never really rated Brit Porn, it's just not to my taste. I'll just stick to US and Euro Porn where it's immediately evident more time, money and enthusiasm goes into the product. I don't watch anything that's been R18'd under any circumstances.

I can't see the Brit scene changing - some claim Relish is doing something different. I dislike their stuff because it's over lit, horrid music, some simpering woman has to tell the story in a semi comic way, too much girl-girl, camera hopping from shot to shot .... it's all wrong.

[bemused]

My point started out and still is that if we started to produce porn of a high standard then the gorgeous girls would come because they wouldn't feel dirty and degraded being in porn. I know two who could be the next super star but they won't budge because of the stuff we churn out.

You can't really mean that we have no women in the UK that look as good as the American stars because frankly we have better, it's just that they don't get the support that they should.

As for money, well if we produced better stuff then we'd be able to find export markets and bingo lots more money for more films. It's the old chicken and the egg scenario.