why is uk porn so poor?

[Deuce Bigolo]

No I'm not Jaded or suffering from porn burn out(500 flicks over 20 years isn't a lot) just very picky about what i watch.Seen far to many lemons on the back of biased reviews & reliance of the studio or producers name

I just know what I like,and that simply put is the choice of everything,from low production REAL amateur Porn to High Production Porn

One thing is for certain,porn and in particular Gonzo will never disappear

Even some survive in a saturated market.We might just be seeing a shift by consumers from DVD to Websites who knows?Lets not forget the ever present piracy via P2Ps which strangely enough has a lot of this Low Budget British stuff available

Believe it or not some people don't rate high production flicks which is easily seen in Germany where the amateurs are out selling private,so I've been told

cheers
B....OZ

[one eyed jack]

Well, theres a surprise. Another critic comes out of the woodwork to make a hurtful comment then slinks back in the shadows behind a blank profile. Bill Goss, I accuse you of trollism with your 6 posts. Come out and face me!

Since you've made an attack Bill, allow me to defend myself. Since you didnt elaborate as to why Naughty Shorties 4 was dull and the reference to "Where is the British Rocco?"

Where did I state on the box it was all about girls getting roughed up during sex? Maybe its the lack of anal scenes on this particular line that got your goat. Again I never purported it was an anal heavy release. On this level I'm sorry to disappoint, but Naughty Shorties is a collection of short scenes of girls being shagged designed expressly for those who dont particularly want to see girls done up the bum all the time and an express wank volume of girls getting shagged with no frills attached.

Thanks for the comment though, up till now I've got away from getting any bad press. Goes to show I'm not infallible.

In future, anyone wants to make criticisms of me, please have the balls to have an e-mail addy so I can respond in private, otherwise I will have to make it public here on this forum.

About the money back...I was just kidding (tee-hee, chortle, hyuk, hyuk, hyuk)

[Deuce Bigolo]

Thats true but my comment was in reference to the plethora of British Broadband sites with british Product that seem to have just sprung in the last 6/12 months

This has to be making an impact on the number of units being moved resulting in lower dvd sales presumably.

cheers
B....OZ

[one eyed jack]

Yes but given our restricted sales to sex shops only the internet has been a god send.

[Rude Boy]

While I am certainly no fan of the vast majority of British porno' there are numerous reasons why, in my opinion, people who choose to shoot hardcore in Britain are up against it from day one compared to those working in Europe. Certainly if one is striving to create a glossy, "Top End" production then I would imagine it is near impossible to do this in Britain these days and it is not ALL to do with the Euro' girls being so superior. Locations, for instance, are a nightmare to obtain in Britain, many location owners who will happily allow glamour style photography on their premises would not entertain the thought of having a hardcore shoot on their turf. I've found the attitudes in Europe to be wholly different. Then there's the make-up artists and all that, I absolutely believe that the number of truly skilled make-up artists who will work on hard porn in the UK is in single figures and decent make-up is essential in a shoot. Is there such a thing as a "Stylist" working in porn' in the UK? I doubt if there is even one such person yet in Budapest there are numerous shit-hot girls and blokes who will work on a fashion shoot one day and a hardcore porn' shoot the next, no problem.

These are just a few examples of some problems one needs to overcome before the camera can start to roll which is why I am mystified why anyone still chooses to work here when the quality on offer in Europe, encompassing all the "Factors" in the porn' equation from models through to locations, is so massively superior.

[one eyed jack]

Very valid points Rudeboy. Very valid indeed that I whole heartedly agree but it would be unfair to dismiss what low budget porn represents to those who love it. Theres not many fans here on this forum it would seem but the reality is a lot different and its not just because the buying public put up with whats on offer.

I have seen sales figures between top names, signature lines and amateur compilations that would dispel the notion that UK porn is anything but poor but a favourite amongst a lot of people that don't post on here.

Be mindful of your comments too, you might cause an exodus of producers to flood out your territory. Just kidding. I know that will never happen as Brit porn is still very popular contrary to what some may believe and I think it will always be.

The reason why people on this forum come full circle withh this age old question is simply because there is too much of the same thing out there, same girls, same guys, same locations etc. No ones re-inventing the wheel here and why should they? Porn is so disposable. Even the best of it.

[Rude Boy]

I totally agree. I'm sure the UK is still a good place to be to shoot "Edgier" style productions it's just that I reckon Johnny Punter has very little idea how hard it would be to shoot a lavish, glam' style production in the UK under current circumstances. Although to be fair to Johnny Punter it's not fair to expect them to know the intricacies of the porn' biz....I suppose!

[Officer Dibble]

"Johnny Punter has very little idea how hard it would be to shoot a lavish, glam' style production in the UK under current circumstances"

Well, there are no lavish glam birds left, for a start - except for Charlotte Church of course, and it probably wouldn?t be a very good career move in her case.


Officer Dibble

[Digi-Guy]

"Although to be fair to Johnny Punter it's not fair to expect them to know the intricacies"

Glad you said that because working to that logic no body in the universe would have got the Matrix series (so who was that little girl)? With mainstream film the consumer just wants to be entertained and for me its the same with porn. I'm not interested in how many camera's used or how big your bulbs are but I would like to watch something with more effort than the couple next door shagging.

I'm also wondering why all the gonzo guys appear to shoot the same style. Surely even within the gonzo style you could create your own method or is this too much beyond possibility?


I've had some replies to my posts that have been sadly thought out and pre judging but it would be interesting to get some angles on this, so to those who have mocked me here is your chance to show your credibilty and tell Joe Public about creating gonzo styles.

DG