Niche market

[NeilUK]

I have to say that this man, company or whatever he calls himself is getting some great publicity on this forum. I am wondering who the people are who start these threads.... could they have anything to do with the company itself? Maybe not but another contributer on a now closed thread seemed to me to have a vested interest when arguing that this forum was full of "gossip" about FC. Thankfully Joe A put him straight but isn't about time we stopped talking about FC? I have to admit to having some of the earlier 18 rated stuff. Debbie Jordan's video springs to mind but this was before I knew the story, I even though it was a company run by a woman. Safe to say I will never purchase anything they produce again.
Lets stop giving him publicity and talk about the many honest hard working people this business has.

NeilUK

[middle_aged_dutchman]

Nothing about the 'sex offenders register' in my review. If you think it is about the sex offenders register, you have misread it.

There have been quite a few posts in this forum recently about Fiona Cooper, who pretends to be a woman, but is a man, and a man with an unhealthy preference for young girls at that. When I wrote this review FC had not stood trial yet, so I thought Fiona Cooper produced nice, clean, healthy solo and lesbian videos and left it at that.

[Officer Dibble]

"but is now dying a slow death due to lack of models willing to work in such circumstances"

It's not that, it's down to a change in the market - Fiona's early success was top shelf driven - a chance to see your favourite fantasy glamour babes in a movie, to see if she was as sweet as she looked in the photos, to see the quiver of her bum and boobies, maybe even to hear her talk. The decline of Fiona Cooper really started with the decline of top shelf mags, the explosion of 'amateur' movies, and the advent of the Internet. These new mediums started using 'amateur' models that were cheaper, but not nearly so nice. However, that didn't matter because at the time the concept was very novel. It was at that point that everyone in adult entertainment became intoxicated with this 'amateur' malarkey and standards of production and personnel, that had stood the test of time, were jettisoned almost overnight. No more investment was made in real classy professional stunners who knew what they were doing. So the breed, over the course of a few years, headed towards extinction.

Now, novel thought they were to begin with, the Shazza's and Tracy?s who were in-between jobs at the fish finger factory and Tescos were never going to hold the male attention span for more than a couple of minutes. They had no allure, they had no style, and they had no mystique. Consequently, geezers found they had very little interest ? what?s the point of paying ?20.00 for a video of Shazza, when you could probably get her pissed up down ?The Mucky Duck? of a Friday evening, see the same, and perchance even get to grips with what she?s hiding under her white Asda knickers? But the chances of that happening with a top line glamour babe (like Adele or Teresa) are probably the same as winning the lottery. Hence their saleability in the video market - if you want her, you?ll have to buy the video. As Simon say?s, there are now very few girls who are attractive, and interesting enough to carry a video of their own in this fragmented market.

The problem for Fiona is that now classic glamour babes are dying out, all that?s left to shoot are Shazzas and Tracy?s of deteriorating calibre and a new breed of model who, on the whole, look no different at all to the girls walking up and down the High St. They?ve grown up in a new post 90?s culture that has told them men and ?wimmin? are the same, and can do the same things. Consequently, they never learned to use their sexuality on men, like they had to in the old days. Never learned how to be sexy, alluring, and desirable. Never learned how to dress. They didn?t need that anymore, they now had ?right?s that guaranteed they could be as lairy and obnoxious as geezers. This has led to a generation of models with no individual image or feminine appeal to the male punters. If you then factor in all the new content creators and outlets for this type of stuff you can see why Fiona might be floundering, as opposed to the day when he had it all to himself.


Officer Dibbs

[emmab]

What i found weird with fiona cooper the only thing which bugged me is the lack of ID i gave him my passport and he didnt look at it and just left it on the table didnt take a copy of it or even look at it... now i find that very strange anything to do with adult work you NEED id for even if its an 80yr old women because its the law... meh...

[Joe A]

I have a 3 solo Indian model dvd's out via Riley:

All are solo/toys and were shot over a year ago when I first picked up a vid cam so are not brilliant quality but... There is one with the lovely Sahara (asin my signature) when we first started working together..

Riley also has more raw footage of other Indian models and maybe he can stick them together to make a compilation... But again this is old footage from when I started

[SimonD]

Call it blowing my own trumpet (fnar yip phwerp!) but I like to think I produce better than FC stuff, I try to get far more character and tease factor into the scenes I film, I find not only does it look and sound far better but the models prefer it too so get a better performance out of them.

I also involve the models more into the scene style so I know they are comfortable with it and often come out with some excellent dialogue as a result, off the cuff is so much more sexy than anything scripted i've tried )

Everybody knows FC's reputation, some fact and some fiction and yes all the models still go to work for him, simply down to the high rates of pay, this shouldn't mean we all pay those silly rates for this style, the simple fact and the reason he pays the rates is because there is no way he could get the models to go to him if he paid the normal rates (well maybe some would still go?)

End of FC comments from me as i'm bored with it too ;o)

I don't use established glamour models all the time as I don't consider that essential, what I look for in a model is how naturally sexy they are rather than how experienced they are, push the right buttons and you get some real sexy scenes, it's a question of finding a style that suits em, ranging from potty mouthed to totally teasy, Maya ( http://www.suburbanamateurs.com/dvds/st ... cene1.html ) is a real prime example of this, total novice at video yet turned out to be one of the sexiest scenes i've shot!

[Sarah-louise4]

FC style is all about the tease, the slow undress, its a bout womanly seduction through to potty mouth filth. Its not got the comic, tongue in cheek style that SA has, and thats the main difference.

As far as the pay its ?500 (minus ?100 to aggy for finding you the job) so thats ?400, inc travel, (travel costs ?75.90 return) so now you are left with ?324.10

So it isnt "silly rates" really. When you think about how much a girl gets in relation to what the photographer gets its usually a really unfair split (but we all know thats how the industry works and we lump it) I mean a magazine set will sell for about ?600 I believe (correct me if Im wrong) and they girl will be paid about ?150 for doing it - remembering the photographer can still sell second rights 18mnths later in some cases.
A TV series film will get the photographer about ?1000 an episode and the girl will get ?200 for doing it, ?300 if a BG. Is this a fair pay out, well some times yes and sometimes no when you think about what you are actually doing for the money (which is why you have to enjoy it too to make it all the more worth while!)
The real money is in the producing, always has been. BUT, still its good money, I used to do a 50 hr week in a bakery for what Ill earn in an afternoon, so its good money, GREAT money in that respect.

BTW if you start an aggy up Ems Ill come and work for you. Its nice to work for someone who doesnt push you into something you are not comforatble with, ECU, simon D, Andy Ide- all good people to work for who are not BJ or no job as some can be.

Phew well I have had my rant for they day lol

[emmab]

Id love to start up my own agency/video company/magazine have a bash at all three! id need a nice place to do it and alot of money which i lack... maybe if someone has a place or knows someone interested in doing this i could join up with thatd be cool!