How many UK performers are gonna stop hardcore now

[middee]

How many are going to stop in the wake of the fact that the industry has proven to be totally unsafe.

What models have already stopped.

[denise davies]

unless the girls have managed to save up any money doing hardcore not many girls will stop.Money can be a great thing but it can can also be very dangerous because its the money that makes girls do it its the money that made me do it but thank god i decided to give it up 5 months ago because it could have been me over there i was planning on going back around that time before i decided to give up hardcore completely my health means alot to me and other girls should feel the same. its money that makes them fuck there bodies up doing extreme and internal stuff and they are the things i refused to do because i know the risks and no amount of money ever got me to change my mind.

[Libby Ellis]

I don't think the industry is "totally unsafe". Anyone with half a brain has always known the risk. Personally I think that providing you set yourself limits as to what you will and won't do and STICK TO THEM, the risk is mimimized. I won't do anal, EVER, even if it means losing out on jobs.

I think there is much greater risk of infection when young people go to clubs, drink too much and end up having (usually) unprotected sex with whoever they have picked up for the night. And this can apply to girls in the industry too. I once witnessed a young model get so drunk she didn't know what she was doing and several guys were taking advantage of her there and then, in front of everybody in a nightclub - not a condom in sight. For all I know this same girl may have had a shoot a couple of days later and no doubt she could produce the required certificate .............

Libbyxx

[Dan Dares]

Good point Libby BUT a) isn't that considered rape and b) obviously no one including you did anything to help her!

[cillaodain]

Denise: "its the money that makes girls do it its the money that made me do it but thank god i decided to give it up 5 months ago because it could have been me over there i was planning on going back around that time before i decided to give up hardcore completely my health means alot to me and other girls should feel the same. its money that makes them fuck there bodies up doing extreme and internal stuff and they are the things i refused to do because i know the risks and no amount of money ever got me to change my mind."

Denise,

What you say is honest and it's important. If a girl has no other way of getting a reasonable amount of money, she might be persuaded to do things that she doesn't really want to do. It might be greed, or it might be that she has rent to pay and food to buy. Let's not pretend that it's all voluntary, and that all the models love gangbangs and multiple penetrations and a whole lot of other things. Some might, I'm sure, but lots of other probably don't.

Good for you that you didn't go past your limits, and I'm glad for you that you seem able to run your own life.

[denise davies]

thanks cilla i have a high school and college education and i think the girls should go to college or university if any dont already so they do have other options not just thinking porn is all they can do in life because it snt.You can earn just as much stripping in a club at night which is alot safer anyway a girl cant do porn forever and you dont get a pension so a girl is screwed for money when she retires from porn anyway.What is quite sad though is that there are new girls wanting to get into the business now while all this is going on you have to have respect for yourself and have your head screwed on as a performer.Im happy just modeling and working for my self

[Libby Ellis]

No, it wasn't rape because she was actively encouraging them and loving every minute of it - and her partner was standing at the bar supping his drink letting her get on with it. I did what I could inasmuch as I reported it to the security and asked them to get a taxi for her - which I believe they did.
I really don't think you should accuse me of such things without knowing the full story.

[Dive in the Dark]

The industry is not totally unsafe. Yes there is a risk involved but, similarly, there is also a significant risk that next time in get in my car I will get in a fatal road accident. That risk doesn't stop me driving.

Everything in life involves some risk. One must do what one can to minimise the risk and to act responsibly.

With adequate and verifiable testing i hope we can all get back to work soon.

Mark

[denise davies]

hi dive

one floor in that reply darren james had adequate tests done on a regular basis but that didnt stop him catching HIV and infecting other people.Tests dont mean shit and not worth the bother