16/17 year olds allowed to watch porn.

[britbirdsrule]

This argument gets me pretty angry and animated , so, im gonna try and be as conservative and mature as I can be .

First of all 16/17 year old's are legal to have sex but it is illegal to watch a video of themselves having sex until they are 18. I think that this reason alone should form some sort of argument , second of all , this country has the worst teenage pregnacy figures in europe yet a country like holland who's laws are very similar to the one's the lib dem's are proposing has one of the best. Maybe , just maybe, by allowing acsess to porn for younger people , you can educate them or allow them to relieve there feelings on there bedroom floor rather than inside a 14 year old girl. Teen pregnancy is consequence of poor sex education, this crappy reserved culture and poverty , not liberal porn laws.
I find it offensive when people point to porn for all society's problems , It's easy get out.

[Wink Wink]

When I posted this yesterday I did so on the other forum thinking it would be O/T, perhaps I should of posted it on both forums (for them who never venture further than one forum or other!).

A few weeks ago there was a program on Channel 4 about teenagers & some of the admited to watching porn even though they were only about 16.

They also said that they tried to get their girlfriends to do some of the things that they had seen in the porno movies, i.e anal. As it happened their girlfriends refused!

Guess may be these teenagers were finding out about sex too soon.....but I'm sure a lot of teenagers are keen to have sex at the earliest moment.....& may be we did too when we were teenagers!!

[Paul Tavener]

The Libdems are not using this to win votes! It is arguable if it might even loose them votes in the short term at least. What is the problem of having a 16 year old in a sex shop? If they are old enough to have sex why can't they watch sex? I am not in favour of children watching porn but 16/17 year olds are not exactly children are they.

Lets just remember that this is the Liberal Democrat party we are talking about - ie liberal, which is a refreshing change from the conservative party and the ultra conservative party choices that we are usual faced with.

[fevrd]

The LibDems are forever coming up with stuff like this. It never means anything

Anything that really happens, happens when no-one's looking, like R18.

[Deuce Bigolo]

The only law that would make sense is appearing in a porn flick
16 is way too young for most....exploitation would be ineviatble
You only need look at Traci Lords

Education not legislation is the best way forward

Many Laws don't seem to deal with reality which is why they are irrelevant

I'm sure underage(insert activity) proves this

cheers
B....OZ

[DavidS]

The real danger here Sandie, is that if it is passed it will act as a trojan horse and will, eventually, restrict adult freedoms in that things deemed unsuitable for 16 year olds, will become illegal for adults to obtain. Unfortunately many people who are anti porn have a very limited knowledge of the subject and do believe that the whole industry is exploitative. This view is reinforced by sections of our irresponsible press. I readily concede that some pornography made abroad is nasty and unpleasant but this is not available legally in this country. Good pornography is an adult fantasy, a concept which seems accepted in most countries but Anglo-Saxons seem to have difficulty with.

[golostruda]

A brave move from the Lib Dems, especially when you consider it can't be being done "to secure votes" as someone claimed, since the people who would benefit (16/17 year olds) can't bleedin' vote anyway!

The current law is stupid if you put it in perspective. It's like saying that people can legally drink alcohol from age 18, but they can't look at a photo of a pint of beer until they're 20.

[What?]

There needs to be one age of consent for everything to stop all the stupid contradictions that have been highlighted here. Id suggest 17 as a happy medium.