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sly bisexuality in adult films
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2003 6:29 am
by cp
I have a theory...
Watching great sex on film can be terrific, but what is our reaction to the guy performers? You can hardly avoid seeing them. lets face it too, some male performers are, shall we say, better than others
Ive always belived theres a bit of bi in all of us and i think adult videos is a release to some latent elements of this. Nothing wrong with that, of course
And some scenes are certainly close to the mark! Especially the two cocks in mouth bit (very common in Bendover videos), which is from my experience every quite a turn on
Interested to hear opinions (especially from the girls)
And no homophobic rubbish please....
Re: sly bisexuality in adult films
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2003 7:49 am
by Pianaman
Maybe ONE of the reasons guys like girl-girl scenes is precisely for that reason - fear of being turned on by the guy or just some sense of being turned off by the idea of a guy being present (maybe not wanting competition too).
That being said - if you do get into girl-guy scenes I guess there is pleasure in the scene as a whole - doesn't necessarily mean you fancy the guy, just that you identify with what he's doing (like you are in his shoes) and admire his "workmanship" - I know I've felt that way about Rocco (more his earlier work) for example - I watch him and I just think "amazing" - wouldn't fancy a night with him but you have to admire his moves and the pleasure he gives to the ladies
That being said, I do agree that deep down we are not completely fixed in our sexualities - one can admire Michaelangelo's David for example and in a way you are seeing him from the point of view of the artist - a homosexual man and taking pleasure from the beauty (yes beauty!) of his vision.
Re: sly bisexuality in adult films
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2003 7:58 am
by jj
Sexual orientation is a continuum: no-one's 100% het, no-one 100% gay.
So I can say Becks is good-looking, without wanting to bugger him senseless........unless it would improve the England team's performances of course.
And even then, only for My Country, and in a strictly Butch way......
Re: sly bisexuality in adult films
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2003 7:58 am
by cp
Nice answer...pretty wellin line with my thinking!
I see that as one of the reasons for the popularity of girl/girl> having said that, the almost necessity for cum shots means that teh demand for the guy having full pleasure is strong too! ( i love Peter Norths cum shots...)
Overall its the full scene that counts.
But the acceptance of close touching in many gonzo films is interesting...i think many film makers have cleverly tapped into something here
And its cool in real life too!
Re: sly bisexuality in adult films
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2003 7:59 am
by cp
Fair point again
Re: sly bisexuality in adult films
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2003 8:34 am
by Mart
Thank God I don't have that problem jj. But I'm not English and I don't fancy any of the Welsh rugby players.....lol
Mart
Re: sly bisexuality in adult films
Posted: Tue Apr 22, 2003 8:37 am
by cp
But what about Craig bellamy?
Re: sly bisexuality in adult films
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2003 12:04 am
by One Eyed Jack
I don't think producers have tapped into anything slyly on this subject of bi sexuality at all. At least, not consciously anyway.
It all comes down to being comfortable in general with who you are working with for instance, I remember an incident many moons ago I took part in a gang bang of 6 guys on one girl and all of us guys were bonding as such chatting before the girl stepped into the room and we all commenced pawing and touching her tentatively, no one moving in for the kill straightaway. I think the guys were focussing on the girl as our centre of attention (can't speak for everyone but myself) and finally, I got a rock on when one of the guys playfully slapped me on the arse and that's it. Lost my mojo. I became conscious of all these naked guys and felt violated that a mans beefy hands had dared to touch my arse in jest.
I didn't say anything at the time because I knew my reaction would have culminated in the end of that shoot. A sure fire way to put a guy off having a hard on is to comment on what a big/ small dick he has...unless it is nice comments coming from a girl.
My point being: If a guy is comfortable about being naked with another guy fucking the same woman doesn't make a guy bisexual or even latently so but I do understand the possibilty of what you mean, though I think this is more likely to be in the U.S than the U.K from what I know
Re: sly bisexuality in adult films
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2003 12:13 am
by Matt
In terms of my reaction to guys in porn films, it pretty much reflects my reaction to guys in society... ie. I'd like more of them if most of them weren't so damn ugly (both inside and out). I have no problem 'admitting' to liking guys from time to time but it's a rare occurance, for many reasons. Like it or loathe it, our society had decided that heterosexuality is normal. While they don't know what fun they could be missing out on, it's influence is curious in porn. I'd prefer to say that pornography is about sexual exploration and open-ness, but of course it isn't. Hell, porn isn't even about arousal. Porn is about profit. And the greatest mass market there is are the gang who think there is something called normal and one of it's key characteristics is an abundance of heterosexuality.
Shame, that.
Re: sly bisexuality in adult films
Posted: Wed Apr 23, 2003 5:25 am
by cp
Good answer...
I agree. Have been in similar situations and am comfortable with naked aroused guys. but doesnt mean i want to touch
Its the situation which arouses (although not for all of course)
And of course, one idiot can ruin it for all
but whether it is concious or not. Its all fun so long as we all enjoy
Your productions are good. And (im sure you get alot of this) if you ever need an extra guy