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Age verification and new laws coming in

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2014 10:32 am
by one eyed jack
You know I hate too ruin anyones enjoyment of porn but I feel this is necessary for those who it concerns just so you can stay head of the game with all thats happening in the business right now as I see the questions are coming in more frequently and I do this so I don't have to sound like a broken record...

...broken record

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By the way if you shoot content for a site, be it Adult Work, Clips 4 Sale etc and dont think you are more than an amateur making a few quid (unlike us mega corporate porn moguls), this includes you too since you re in effect a producer even if you think youre a hobbyist.

If youre selling it then this applies to you too.


Re: Age verification and new laws coming in

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:29 am
by lowerloft
It became law on the 6th Dec and starts on the 1st Dec, so no UK based adult companies can show any R18 rated material before a payment wall.

http://www.xbiz.com/news/187868


Re: Age verification and new laws coming in

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 5:20 pm
by andy at handiwork
'It became law on the 6th Dec and starts on the 1st Dec.' At least one of those dates must be incorrect,

'...before a payment wall.' I dont know, you cant even give it away now.

Re: Age verification and new laws coming in

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 8:41 am
by lowerloft
Andy,

Typo on my side, came in to law on the 6th Nov and starts on the 1st Dec 2014.

You will not be able to have R18 level material before a payment wall. You could give it away free if you had users pass through age verification system first.

UK adult business needs to start looking at their business model now. I have a US online business that is thinking ahead as most of their business comes from the UK. They are adding AV to their sites, they don't need to but are looking to the longer game and also changing their business model to include AV confirmed traffic.


Re: Age verification and new laws coming in

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 11:09 am
by Paul Taylor
So is this as well as ATVOD, so you have to make double sure no hardcore content is on your tour if you are baed in the UK and own a site, and then make sure again for the AV law too?

Thats without AV people on top of that, one of them its kind of defunked now isn't it and I'm guess it will be ATVOD as they aren't going to bin the new law thats just come in are they?

I actually agree with the AV part as its protecting children, that will cost us in putting this in place on UK based sites but at least your getting something for your money, in buying software or using some sort of AV script to make sure this is in place before you are presented with a join page.

With ATVOD if your making under 50k you pay ?150 for what? just be be listed with them and follow their rules, at least the AV law is easier to follow, even if it does still put UK sites at a disadvantage compared to the rest of the world who can have hardcore on their tours, if this was world wide then at least it would level the playing fields a little.


Re: Age verification and new laws coming in

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 2:25 pm
by one eyed jack
AV will only work as James pointed out at XBiz if everyone abides by the same rule but thats not going to happen so its going to push all the traffic to tube sites who dont want to give their credit card details to be verified

This is what killed it for the German porn business years ago


Re: Age verification and new laws coming in

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:21 pm
by Scarlet Grey
And I bet thats the plan anyway to kill it off, its a vote winner isn't it, for the Government isn't it really " We got rid of porn in the UK when we were in power, we made it so hard every body folded"

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Re: Age verification and new laws coming in

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2014 3:56 pm
by one eyed jack
I doubt porn is really the issue. If it was they couldve made it illegal but it wasnt seen as a threat.

Handy as a vote getter though.


Re: Age verification and new laws coming in

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 11:32 am
by lowerloft
With the German case, you had to go to the post office or somewhere alike to show your ID and get something sent to you if I am 100% right, the AV that is being looked at here is more digital based and you do not always have to give credit card details, there are a few options open to you.

The come at a different rate for the site owner, but they go above ATVOD. So it would be nice if it showed there was no need for ATVOD to be around just to pay Pete Johnson a nice wage per year for doing nothing at all.