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Is anyone doing this at the moment, it's not something iam doing as i always use paper certs.

None I hope.

Yeah hopefully none I certainly wouldn't in person or by e-mail, I shot a model recently who's certs had not come through so she got the hospital to send them through to me after giving them a telling off for paying a lot to get them with in a certain date at the Regents Park Clinic in london, so they forwarded them to me in an e-mail but it was a full cert, but no text, don;t worry about about what other producers do, just you don't do that, think you answered your own question there really if you think about it.

I'm sure clinics would not do this as it is a breach of doctor patient confidentiality and the data protection laws for a start and we all kow how the doctors are sticklers for the rules with that

Sounds well dodgy.

That sure dont sound like a reputable clinic.

wow wow guys let me just clarify the situation for everyone here I had organised a content share shoot with Bodi on the 6th October and he told me he has taken time off work so we can do the shoot and because of that I was offered severals shoots over the 15th and 16th which would have meant me staying away from home and I could have made close to ?1000 doing those shoots but turned them down as i didnt want to let Bodi down as he told me he had taken time off work.

Everything was going well until last night and after we had spoke on the phone and to clarify not once did Bodi ask me if I was certed only I had asked him via text message he asked me to have ID ready because as we were doing content share he wanted to see ID and for me to sign a model release I said that was fine but I needed to same from him and also needed certs which he had said he had as I asked him that by email before we confirmed the date.

I also told him I have mine by text and this is where everything fell through he said he wouldnt do the shoot I explained he could call the clinic or the nurse direct which I provided the number for and said if he didnt want to use the number I am providing then he can google the clinic and ask them direct I also explained to him that the clinic only does STI tests on Thursdays so if you call them on a tuesday the day of our shoot there is a poss that they may not be able to answer your questions but all of this they can confirm with you and tell you everything I am telling you.

He said no that this wasn't enough and cancelled our shoot and is now clearly using his time off to try and start a debate well I can tell you as I sit here pissed off and counting my losses I have NEVER worked with anyone without protection if they havent had a valid cert and I NEVER will and also in my spare time I dont sleep around the only people I have sex with are either on camera which I have explained are either certed or protected which I try and avoid or my partner who also has tests done and I myself although I may have my certs by texts have done several shoots with quite well known producers and studs and all have accepted my cert as a text in fact one even said he prefers it like that as you can never use the excuse you forgot it at home when its on paper and you nearly always have your phone.

I am 100% behind trying every possible way to cut down on the risks of anyone getting any STI's and will 100% support every effort that is made in minimising the risk and have refused to work with people when they have shown me out of date certs or said they forgot certs at home there are far worse things people are doing out there than having certs by text trust me and I want go into that or mention any names and the propose on this isn't to bring anyone else down but to highlight to everyone that I am totally commit to protecting my own health and the health of the people I work with or may work with in the future and any attempted allegation brought against me to try and make out as if I am not commit to what I have said above I refute and will counter to protect my integrity and honesty and I implore Bodi to send out all the texts message where I explained everything to him clearly and emails where I can honestly say not once either over the phone via email or text did he ask me about me being certed or about my cert although I asked him via email around three times and in text the only time he did decide to clarify if I had a cert and what type of cert was when I asked him in a text message at around 9pm the night before the shoot and this from a guy who is all up for keeping safe right, don't make me laugh I feel I was honest and open with Bodi from the start and I tried my best to do what was best for us both but all I got at the end was the chance to spend my day reflecting on the money I have lost in turning down several paid shoots and also got the chance to sit at home and think about things to avoid in the future and I would like to end by saying again so everyone can hear me loud and clear I HAVE NEVER HAD UNPROTECTED SEX WITH ANYONE WEATHER THAT BE ON CAMERA OR OFF IF THEY HAVENT BEEN CERTED AND NEVER WILL ALSO I CARE ABOUT MY OWN SEXUAL HEALTH AS MUCH AS ANYONE ELSE AND WOULD NEVER KNOWINGLY PUT ANYONE AT RISK BY TRYING TO USE A FAKE, OLD AND ANY OTHER TYPE OF FABRICATED CERT AS I AM FULLY AWARE WHAT RISK I AM EXPOSING MYSELF AND OTHERS TOO

Thank you all for taking you time to read this

Nikki Blows

for those of you who are now going out to even doubt I am getting tested or doubt the place doing my tests heres a link you can all look at and call them if you feel I am telling you anything other than what I have said above

http://www.tht.org.uk/sexual-health/Cli ... g-Coventry

also although it says you can get do tests monday to friday they will tell you if you ask for a full screen test that they only do this on thursday which confirms what I have said and also if you read on the site they say they give you results within 20 mins they say that say that will only give you results within 20mins for HIV tests for full screens they taken a week or longer to give your results and then send it out by text message and this is why I try and get tested every two and half weeks to three weeks.

I have also attached a picture so you can see that back in January of this year they did give out certs on paper but no longer offer that service and the only thing I have taken off the cert is my name, my date of birth, and signature

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/62/img2970gn.jpg/

Nikki

Now I understand where Bodi posted such a question. I trust that you will make it to the AITA/UKAP Open Health Meeting on the 31st Oct in London OPEN HEALTH MEETING DETAILS where we are going to discuss if the industry wish to take on the AITA/UKAP DRAFT PROTOCOLS and then discuss what other minimum testing standards the UK industry wish to work too.

These are important issues and I am calling upon all that earn any money from the UK adult industry to come along and have a voice. If people cannot make it they really need to let me know if they do or do not support the draft protocols so their vote can be counted either way.

Well I would love to come along to the meeting but I couldnt due to a few reasons but I hope the message I intend to give out has been received loud and clear and I not just some stupid idiot waiting for a quick fuck and a pay day I am in the adult industry not for the money thankfully me and my partner both have full time jobs I do this because I enjoy it and yes the money is good too but that isn't the main reason why I do it and I would never let myself or anyone else to be a risk to my health and to anyone elses health and I am totally commit to reducing all risks but I dont understand what the issue is in having a cert which is texted to you and something that can be clarified by going on to the website of the clinic and by making a quick phone calling.

I just don't understand why anyone would make a big deal about it especially someone who had no concern until 9pm the night before the shoot and in the past people who have wanted to make sure that my cert was real have either had me call the clinic in front of them or have done it themselves and it takes a couple of minutes at best to do that.

Like I have already said I am 100% committed to keeping me and others safe and would never knowingly put myself or others in harms way but having a cert which is texted to you is the least of our concerns when people are doing what they are doing but like I said that isn't something for me to discuss I know who those individuals are and I try avoid them if I can thats all I can do but I would never do something where I know I could potentially be harming myself or someone else because it doesn't make any sense for the sake of ?300.00 which will never be enough to repair the damage if you get HIV or any of the the STIs, like I said im not stupid and will not take allegations made about me lightly and I am stilling waiting for Bodi to reply to anything I have wrote considering he started this debate not me.

The thing about texting is that anyone can make that text and say you are in the all clear.

Would you be happy with it?

If that was the standard then it would be abused before long if it isnt already as someone could just use another phone to do it.

Not many people will verify it so therefore it would get abused. I personally dont know of any clinic doing that and nor do I know of any producer who would accept that as without documentation, a lot of producers will not get paid unless they provide a copy of it

Hi Nikki,
great that you value your health so much, join the club and well done with everything you have said.

Bodi asked a question, didn't mention you my name, didn't say he had been let down by a unreliable model, he asked a question, that question was : Which producers accept hiv/std tests by text?

It was a question that was fair enough to ask and the fact that he said he isn't excepting anything else other than paper certs is a good, thing and I hope people agree with me.

There is just one worrying thing in what you have said. You said that other producers, including well known producers excepted a texted cert WHAT????

I am sure you a trust worthy girl, I have a few model friends in the industry who I trust and who are reliable and value their health as much as you seem too. I have trusted them with personal matters and even hung out outside of work we get on so well. But would I trust these people with a text cert? NO I would not.

Because on a set you are not friends you are work colleagues and whoever has hired you is your employer for the day and they will be directing you/producing you or whatever.

You can't let emotions and trust get in the way not when if some one was dishonest and I am not saying you are ( please don't jump to conclusions) but the hole thing falls down.

I get tested at my local NHS hospital and when I first started going, they said they would text me the results, now for a service that the public uses, that is great and a nice little system, when its something we, the industry use, then we still need the proof. I got a text that said : YOUR TEST RESULTS ARE NEGATIVE from a 4 or 5 digit number ( can't remember exactly)

But I still asked for the proof, and I got it a week later in the post as I always do.

So in my opinion Bodi was right, no matter how close it is to the shoot, day before or on the day, if there is a problem with having your certs then the shoot must be called off, for safety reasons, no trusting people, not taking peoples word for it. Texts messages although sent out by the NHS as I know they do should never ever be accepted as a proof, there is no way of knowing they are real.

You did the right thing, by offering him the information professionally, and offering him the number to ring, even though they will not give him the information, you would have to call on the day and then give your permission for this person to hear it from the doctor. I tried that and like you say sometimes they aren't open the day of the shoot like you said yours wasn't so that wouldn't work, you would need to be together for this to be confirmed.

If your NHS place does not give out paper certs anymore the you can not use them anymore find somewhere else.

If you told Bodi that other producers have accepted your texts certs then he was bound to ask somewhere like here, as he must of doubted himself for cancelling, if others where then maybe he thought oh shit, maybe I should too, but again thats trusting someones word again and you can't, so he asked on here and so far people have said no do not accept and they are right.

I know some models who have e-mailed me their certs incase they forget and still bring them with them on the day of the shoot too. I have had them e-mailed directed from the clinic before with official government extension e-mail address and of course the cert in a pdf and in a similar layout to what I have seen before, from the models doctor who I was shooting thats fine too.

I admire you and am pleased you have refused to work with people who you didn't feel safe with, but why did you not??? because you didn't trust them?

That is what Bodi did, he didn't trust the format you said you would present your certs in, not you personally the format of a text message that goes against every thing he knows about what is aceptable and doubted it, then doubted himself if you told him other producers accepted your text cert.

This is me going off what you said, if it was an e-mail PDF of your cert then that could be more believable but I find it wrong that a well known producer accepted this , I really am.

The fact that they did means you have gone along thinking this is ok and its not, so really you are not to blame and at least this thread was created on this subject so you know in future paper certs or not at all.

Trust does not come into it, it has to have the proof, you could have something and not even know it and generally believe you are safe to work with we all could and if that ever happened and it was found a text message was used as a way of proving you were tested I don't think that would go down well at all for the industry or your career.

Keep up the good work Nikki on how you value your health just change your hospital if they no longer give out certs and you will be fine.

There is no reason you and Bodi an't reschedule once you have paper cert and he wasn't having a go and didn't mention you he was seeking advice and he was right and he did the right thing.

A producer/model cancelling because a model doesn't have their certs in the right format isn't a let down, a time waster or anything like that, and this will happen if someone hasn't got the right paper work on the day.

I think you and bodi should kiss and make up, you get paper certs for your shoot, keep doing what you are doing and valuing your health and then its happy days.

As for the people who accepted this, I'd like to know who they are, as I strongly disagree with them that they accepted this and this is coming from a little small company like me who properly doesn't even compare to the people you are referring to in terms of quality of product.

I hope people agree with me that text certs even if you know the person well can not be accepted, certs are there to take the trust out of thee equation so no one can make a bad judgement call.