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Hi

From time to time I book models, ususally up to toys levels but in the last six months to POV Hand/Blow Job; I never ask a model to sign a release and the rate I pay is usually 50 ph for toys plus 100 fixed for the HJ/BJ and to date have had a reasonable response including models working over their limits.

Recently I contacted one known professional model for the above type shoot, she was happy on 50 ph for the toys but for the HJ/BJ she required 300.00 plus I needed to be certed , so that wold put the cost over 500.00 for the shoot

I turned this down and have been told that in the last 12 months the model in question has had several bookings on these rate and conditions

is it me or am I being a cheapskate

I agree the rate is abit high,

but if you want b/j then yes you should be certified or using a condom , as you can catch infections from both giving & receiving oral.

no certified performer can do this without cancelling out there cert - i wouldn't work with any performer that i have heard is guitly of doing this.

In most cases, if a model will do the levels, what they look at is the total pay for the day.

Sounds like in general you pay 250-350 plus travel total, and for what you want that's reasonable, but some girls are in demend and get more, so ask more. Whether or not you pay is up to you.

I think your prices are reasonable in todays climate, as you don't ask for a model release ?100 for a BJ/HJ is about right. I only work for amateurs as a rule because they don't push out my material like a pro company would thus keeping my films mostly exclusive to my site.

Kim x

Hi Tanya,
I would like to confirm that we both have worked with the same person. I have had in the last 18 months had 3 free tests no certs and have been fine. However since the crucifixion of Conchita for her fake certs , we have had mentioned one stud who self medicates with and serious concerns from the models, I say this because I have had a shoot recently and the model told me as much. In addition 2 of the girls have mentioned the names of 2 particular studs who Gay Escourt and one other model has told me for her esourt work it is bareback with regular private clients. So before a amateur who spends 350.00 per month or 4,200 per year is discriminated against perhaps it would be an idea to put the professional house in order. Now all three of the above are known names, the female model is extremly well known and on a search last night of this forum , she seems to be a flavour of the month model

We would be interested if you could email us the names of the not mentioned people Mark, not for a witch hunt as we don't have time for this as there are so many but just to know who else to avoid etc.

thanks John

videokim69@hotmail.com

Cue comedy gales of laughter here but for the first time someone has evidence of fake certs and it is revealed people come out and rebuke and chastise those who make such revelations.

I find it suspicious that people are quick to say they know who these people are but wont back it up with names. Not that you can on BGAFD but even when people reveal names and say you cant mention the name of the person that told you doesnt actually give you any leverage in confronting that person as the first thing I would say if someone came to me with no evidence is to get lost

At least we discussed this directly with the person who was accused of it and there was no crucifixion of Conchita on our part. She can tell you this herself. If anyhting we (UKAP ) were criticised for not hauling her arse over the coals and it wasnt necesary because she owned up and was cooperative.

Anyone who withholds information on culprits who flout the rules and says : "Well I dont want to mention names" is as guilty as the person faking it as far as I'm concerned because they are turning a blind eye to it.

In short the way you are doing it by telling individuals without proof but hearsay from another model is basically spreading rumours.

If you have no proof then how do you know for sure the perosn you are talking about is guilty?

The Conchita incident had to be acted on as the models that told me allowed me to use their names to confront the company involved who disclosed their evidence.

The way I see it we went about this the proper way than just gossip on a fan forum which ultimately is what it is if you get your info from a model who doesnt want her name mentioned in conjunction with this most serious of offences.

Kim are you that much at war with the pro side of the business why you feel you have to state with pride you are an amatuer.

The difference between an amateur and a professional is whether you earn a living from your business. Unless it is a hobby of course.

We're all in the same game Kim !happy!