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Why is the British porn industry so tame?
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:58 pm
by James King
Hi All
I'm new to this site. I've just come back to the UK after spending a little time on the fringes of the American porn industry, then went to Italy and then Germany and was a lot more involved.
Since coming back to England I have been so disappointed with the kind of stuff that is being produced over here - it is really tame! Which I guess is fine for some but if you look at the other leading foreign markets I think universally punters also want some really hardcore porn, the likes of which are not being made in this country.
I did a video over here about a year ago which was meant to be a bukkake gang bang - it was so tame - again! I would love to know why this is? Also, why are so many of the male performers over here unable to perform properly and get proper wood?
From a man's point of view (i know i'm not speaking for all men) you want to see a girl getting the fuck of her life, getting it in every hole with a hard cock and trying to be as dirty as possible. Please correct me if I am wrong?
It seems as though the UK is still far behind America and the rest of Europe which is really quite upsetting from a male performer's point of view. I am not surprised I hardly ever see any really hard cocks in British porn because quite simply it just isn't horny enough.
I was hoping to do some film work with my time over here but i'm not sure if it is the type of work I would want to do. For a man, the reasons for getting into this kind of work has never been the money - if we're being honest it is to go beyond our fantasies and create something really dirty, nasty, horny, you know something which is almost forbidden. TO basically fuck a pornstar the way a pornstar should be fucked. More than just going through the motions... make something passionate, spend some time to create chemistry on set. This in my eyes is what being a pornstar should be about.
So if are still reading thank you for taking the time, I know I have gone on a bit but it's all stuff I wanted to get of my chest and I hope I haven't offended anyone, that was not my intention. My intention is to maybe find some directors or producers in the UK who feel the same and might hopefully like to do something about it.
Please get in touch if you do.
Thanks
James King
Re: Why is the British porn industry so tame?
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:12 pm
by one eyed jack
Thats a bloody good question to which, from years of observation later, there is no one straight answer to that.
Having worked in Europe I have to say I've seen some really good performers who never came up with excuses of too hot too cold whatever, had wood and got right into it. in fact, i wont mention his name but he is always saying to me...Was I ok? man i couldnt ask for better!
Dont get me wrong I have worked with some very good performers if you pay the proper rates which a lot of Uk producers would only scoff at however this doesnt mean I pay extra for Real Couples before you ask.
One major difference is that europeans (maybe americans too) look after rthemselves so therefore are fit and confident with it and dont posess much of the issues that hinder male performers in the UK which is primarily a lack of self confidence and lack of experience knowing how to carry a scene. For the most part they dont really know how to position themselves to make a scene more aesthetically pleasing to the eye (dick in fanny/ass shot) some are just hopeless at taking direction beginning or even during the shoot that the moment you breathe....The wood is gone, never to return.
If I am brutally honest though, this is why i prefer reality based scenarios because the brits mainly know about the fun and enjoyment of shagging their partners on tape and I feel this is where the Brit market really is. yeah its tame but sometimes I do find seriously outrageous couples and that to me just reflects the broad spectrum of the genre I work in.
i think a good male performer has to have no conscience but one single driven goal to fuck but how he does it is what makes him any good or not.
A really good hard fucker can also have a bad reputation for being an arse hole that girls wil either love or hate...the Rocco wannabees. Too many guys want to imitate Rocco or Nacho but just come across as potential rapists rather than a fevered male professional male high on pussy. Those boys have control over themselves in a performance and thats where the key is at.
Some blokes when they get hard lose the ability to think for the blood thats rushed to their cock. i wouldnt lay the blame always on the performer as I feel education is required on all levels for the UK industry to even compete with its european and american counterparts.
Oh and th emost important thing: A lot of UK performers dont really watch porn. they watch it yes but are stuck on how attractive the girl is without really studying and applying how a good performance works.
One thing I do respect though. This shit aint easy and anyone just getting into it just to fuck pretty girls and get paid are in for a shocking eye opener. What you'll get away on an amateur production, you wont get away with on a professional one.
Thats just my observation of course. Anyone feel free to elaborate or detract from this what they will
Re: Why is the British porn industry so tame?
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 4:49 pm
by Paul Taylor
I'm still new to this game, well not new as I have been around since 2003, but my content is new to the internet and avaliable for the first time and I do hope I can make a living out of it, also my style is my chosen style of what I like to watch, so I will never change no matter how much money goes on my productions.
I hope to make a living out of this and out of my site as a performer, producer,director and hope to keep the people who are interested in my work, and although its alot of money aspecially with what I have spent to date to get your end away and not the reason I do it, I would be lying if I said a small part of why I am doing this is not to fuck girls and make money.
I love what I do, like the people I have met and there is never a day goes by that I dont work on something to do with my work at Dusk Films.
I am chuffed with the response of my site and hope people continue to enjoy it. Maybe UK porn is tame, but me personally I just like straight sex and dont like the more forceful stuff some of the USA dishes out, but the people I am a big fan of and must say I get my inspiration from is sweetloads and most of Rodney Moore's work, and its the same theme as my members site, Facial cum blasts and cum swallowing. This was what made me want to go into porn and I may always remain a small company but I am part of the adult industry now.
The USA and europe content does tend to be anal based and it seems to be the norm over there, where alot of girls dont seem to do this, I can take it or leave it, if they do it I will add it to the scene if not no big deal, the fact I work with alot of unknowns in the north east limits anal, aspecially for there first ever scene.
I think the tame porn as refered above is down to the goverment too, I mean whats the point of filming things that would be passed in the USA and cut out over here by the BBFC, thats why I chose the online way to start off with, you can get alot more passed and on your site, if the server is based in the USA or Europe.But personally I do like alot of british porn produced, we do our own little thing and have our own style.
Well thats what I think anyway
Paul
Re: Why is the British porn industry so tame?
Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 5:52 pm
by Androm
It depends on what you mean by tame and what?s not? There is a still lot of American and European porn that is straight fuck ?them in the pussy? after a rather long boring blow job scene. If you are saying? hard? such as German Goo Girls, ECT then in the UK I don?t know any. ********** did some of the hardest stuff in the UK. Sometimes not even worth doing hard stuff on these shores because it will never get an R18 certificate.
Apart from male performers there are less female porn models in UK that work to anal and even less who will do DP. A lot will only do B/G with partners. Girls don?t grow on trees and we can?t ?if by magic? make them appear. The US has a bigger population, near endless supply of young female models wanting to hit the big time in porn. Last figure I saw was something around 20 new girls every week in porno valley. Ok, not all of them make it and some only do 1 or 2 DVD?s. I think in the UK there is a lot more chance a model will get recognise in the street. We still are a small island. There?s still a certain proportion of British society that looks down on such activities with an attitude of ?No Sex we?re British?.
Seen a lot of American guys who I would also say can?t get proper wood. In-fact I?d say a lot of US porn guys with massive cocks. They only can get it in a pussy because it?s large but it's not rock. Maybe because they don't have enough blood for their cock and head?
Saying this I?m not defending UK porn because it would be nice for it to be more hardcore. That?s why I have part of my site dedicated to extreme stuff. Just need more models!
Re: Why is the British porn industry so tame?
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 10:51 am
by Easter Egg
Being a European, the unique about UK porn for me is probably what you refer to as "tame".
I call it realistic in such a way that I can identify myself with it somehow, and the people involved.
Most European and US porn look pretty much the same. See one, seen them all.
A teeny girl sits on a couch, looks at the camera, and looks aside to have a dick almost poking her eyes out instantly. Before she even knows what happens, a couple of monkeys is fucking her to pieces in every possible way, 'till she can barely walk afterwards. Maybe that's a dream scenario for most male actors, dunno.
But the very moment I will get horny by watching this, I'll look for mental help immediately.
Re: Why is the British porn industry so tame?
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 12:18 pm
by Benson_Media
I agree with you Jack, it is a difficult business to be in and I think a lot of people come into from an amateur 'shot at home' level. That's not to say their product is any less worthwhile because it's shakey, has poor lighting or sound.
I always prefer to see porn with real 'energy' in it and you always get energy when the people involved have a personal interest as opposed to a financial interest. Also, much of this energy derives from not just the performers but from the person behind the cameras. Which, is why a lot of US made porn actually suffers from being formulaic and dull because it's being produced at a purely professional level.
It also has to be said that the US porn industry is a never ending bandwagon so even the heaviest gonzo like meatholes and midnightprowl eventually become generic..
I am a Brit, I live in Europe, Amsterdam and I lived in the US for a year. I think that UK porn is distinct, not really comparable no matter how much we'd like it to be. And, I certainly don't think UK Dogging sites are tame..nor do I think any of my products are either.
I think a more important concern is standards of health and safety in the industry. I recently tried to organise a Bukkake shoot in the UK and was amazed to discover the general disregard for the need for protection. In particular HIV/STi certificates.
I know of quite a few people who work in the UK hardcore industry that take the view that medical certificates aren't needed for oral work. That this is the 'standard' within the UK. Crazy!
Re: Why is the British porn industry so tame?
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:29 pm
by Benson_Media
Re: Why is the British porn industry so tame?
Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 1:38 pm
by Benson_Media
Hehe..like the mask. Reminds me a bit of ZFX in Florida..
Bondage rope is way too loose tho'
OK, here's mine: