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Re: Model Advice and Safety Guide
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 5:55 pm
by marcusallen
I can understand your need/desire to promote your agency but if you seriously think that potential models are going to wade through all that, then you have a lot to learn.
I read it out of curiosity - otherwise I would not feel qualified to comment.
There is a great deal of truth, but also several anomalies and if you intend to be taken seriously, I suggest you lay off the moral advice thread and prove yourself along the lines you suggest to others.
Agencies come and agencies go ad infinitum.
Re: Model Advice and Safety Guide
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 8:01 pm
by marcusallen
By the Rt Hon J.Walker, I seem to have touched a nerve!
Tell/Prove to all that you are doing this totally, 100% out of the goodness of your heart without any hope of favour/trust/remumeration/consideration and a large bottle of my finest will be despatched with all immediacy.
After all my years, the good, bad and ugly, I find pure altruism hard to swallow.
I would LOVE to be wrong in my scepticism and my original post was merely meant as an observation. Helpful or otherwise.
Re: Model Advice and Safety Guide
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 8:43 pm
by titanic
Marcus,
Like you im a sceptic,
Why run a model website when you are not connected to the industry.
He has to pay for the website plus the hours spent updating. Also the calls he makes to models to confirm they are genuine sometimes this can be several calls.
Yet the website produces no income
So what is in it for him?
Answers on a postcard
Also as like me he spams the boards surly a link back from his own site to bgafd would be the least he could do
Or is this not one of his selected sites?
Billy Ryan
Titanic
Re: Model Advice and Safety Guide
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:00 pm
by titanic
Hi Andrew
Two good points
Yes i did use your website when I like most newcomers i thought you ran a free and open forum and were an honest person
Yes I was banned from your website which is now why I dont use it thanks for pointing that out.
I will not go into details about what you do etc etc as unlike you I dont nam e and shame
But what I will say is this
I was banned from your forum for what i posted about you an bgafd which was removed with good reason as it left this board open to liabel .
However you have still not answered two of the questions i put to you
1You spam this board yet you dont have a link to it from your website yet you will not allow anyone to post on yours without a link back.
2 The amount of phone calls you make to models models to establish they are genuine.
Unlike you Andrew I work with models on a daily basis and I pay them .
We might be only two years old but we are on the way up and anyone can email any model we have worked with and ask what it was like to work with Titanic.
So Andrew if you think im being unfair you have my phone no also my email please feel free to either call me or email me and we can discuss the problems we have with the way you treat models so in future we can keep them off this board which is the only one we at Titanic use.
Regards
Billy Ryan
Titanic
Re: Model Advice and Safety Guide
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 11:06 pm
by titanic
Hi Andrew,
Once again you failed to answer a main question.
Why do you have to call models more than once to establish they are real.
A one or two minute call is fine but the feed back we get from models is this is not he case.
Also there are other issues which we cannot address on this forum which we and many other people in this industry are not happy with your approach to new models.
As for damaging your website why would we do that ?
You dont produce videos so you are not competition
We dont run a pay website so no problems there.
We dont list models either so no problems there either.
As I have said all along the only problem Titanic has with you is how you abuse your position when you contact new models.
So once again i ask you if you feel we are unfair either call me you have my no or email me.
Regards
Billy Ryan
Titanic