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Paylasilmayan kadin - 1979 (turkish language !surrender!)

cast:
emel canser
hakan ozer
oya basak
ali tekin
guner ozonur
sabahat izgu
tevhit bilge

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This will raise some intersting 'jurisdictional' debate, if current EU attitudes
are anything to go by :- )

It's all good mate. We don't really care where it comes from as long as it's good p0rn, right?

If the Eurovision Song Contest and UEFA think Israel is part of Europe,
who am I to disagree?
Geography, it now seems, is a matter of taste.

I will pull up the drawbridge at Japanese or Australian porn, however much
I like the women...... [img]http://www.egafd.com/forum/smileys/bobby.gif[/img]

At first, congratulations to fromitaly for his great contribution !

These early efforts of turkish pornography should most certainly be included in EGAFD's filmography. I'm not considering to begin or take part in a debate concerning Turkey's relationship with Europe (and take in mind that I belong to the eternal enemy!). These films would have never been shot, had Turkey not had a "European" parameter.

If I 'm not mistaken, I must possess 4 or 5 of these films. They were all made in the late 1970s, and most certainly up to the army's "putsch" of September 1980. This period has been one of both political and social unrest, that has probably favoured the shooting of these films. It's interesting to notice that most of them have an elementary plot and did not include hardcore inserts from other "foreign" films.

These productions have nothing to do with the modern productions of "Istanbul Life", who are actually German-Turkish productions, shot in Turkey, with participants, that are most probably Turkish immigrants, living in Germany, on "sex-vacation" to their homeland. In my opinion, though, they should also be included in EGAFD. What does Alec think of it ?

Returning to Paylasilmayan kadin (1979), I have a question for fromitaly. Is this really the first turkish hardcore film ever, or does his message's title imply that it's the first turkish h/c title to have ever been dealt with in EGAFD ?

Among the cast, Hakan Ozer and Ali Tekin are most certainly males. In fact, the first name probably corresponds to the guy with the moustache featured in the first line of the captured screenshots. He took part in practically all these films as the main stud. If I cal also recall well, the girl in the second line of the screenshots performed anal sex in her scene.

It would be very exciting, if any correspondent from Turkey could supply us with more information about such a neglected area of European porn. Are these films distributed or do they "circulate" in nowadays' Turkey ? And what about the welcome of the "Istanbul Life" productions in Turkey ?

Of course the reason I can be so facetious about such 'border disputes' is
that I'm not in charge here.
And am rather glad not to be, and have the deepest sympathy for those
who are :- )

Should Israel should be included here? [assuming there IS such a thing as
a porn industry there; I can only think of one Hebrew porn-actress, and
she was domiciled in Britain]... Let's not forget that Russia is routinely
assumed to be European despite 3/4 of its terrritory being physically in
Asia...

Let's not forget that Russia is routinely
assumed to be European despite 3/4 of its terrritory being physically in
Asia...

yes ...because of this I think that Turkey could be listed here too, by the way I can't decide about borders but I know there are already mentioned turkish people in egafd ( eg Sibel Kekilli...)

@skatschko : I meant the first known porn in Turkey, you are right the second girl does anal sex but no cumshots in the film.
you could be right also about males but who can say?
we need a turkish translator !happy!

Israeli porn does surely exist: I bought a dvd last year produced there.
I'm not sure this is the first turkish porno. Almost surely one of the first.

skatschko,

I'd be interested in a possible trade for the 4 or 5 turkish H/C titles you got;
could you get in touch with me? I've got over 1500 H/C titles of 70s/80s age.

rougetnoir@tiscali.it

skatschko wrote:

>
> These productions have nothing to do with the modern
> productions of "Istanbul Life", who are actually German-Turkish
> productions, shot in Turkey, with participants, that are most
> probably Turkish immigrants, living in Germany, on
> "sex-vacation" to their homeland. In my opinion, though, they
> should also be included in EGAFD. What does Alec think of it ?
>

I think at the moment there's not enough time. Practicalities triumph over principles. The point about a 'European parameter' would be a clincher otherwise.