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Hinkley Point C
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 5:21 pm
by WigBilly
Good for Theresa May holding back on green-lighting this rip-off new plant where British customers get completely stiffed on electricity prices for the next 40 years, why do the Chinese have to be major investors anyway, let them stick to stir-frying takeaway food & laundering clothes in this fine country of ours.
Re: Hinkley Point C
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:15 pm
by Jonboy
Hi,
All Hinckley was is a George Osborne me me me vanity project and should be abandoned. It is part of Osborne?s 3 Hs Heathrow, HS2, Hinckley and relies on foreign ownership and taxpayer?s money.
If Osborne really wanted a monument to his time in office perhaps he could have considered job creation paying more than the minimum wage and generating some proper NI and Tax contributions, then there would be no need for the cuts including the bedroom tax.
I may not like Theresa May but she has hit the nail on the head with this one, bet George is hiding in a corner at Tina Brown?s Brexit Bash
Re: Hinkley Point C
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 10:29 pm
by sparky
Jonboy wrote:
> Hi,
> All Hinckley was is a George Osborne me me me vanity project
> and should be abandoned. It is part of Osborne?s 3 Hs Heathrow,
> HS2, Hinckley and relies on foreign ownership and taxpayer?s
> money.
> If Osborne really wanted a monument to his time in office
> perhaps he could have considered job creation paying more than
> the minimum wage and generating some proper NI and Tax
> contributions, then there would be no need for the cuts
> including the bedroom tax.
> I may not like Theresa May but she has hit the nail on the head
> with this one, bet George is hiding in a corner at Tina Brown?s
> Brexit Bash
>
>
Indeed nail hit on the head, maybe the same will happen with HS2 saving every over 18 in England around ?1500.
High up on my list of grudges as taxpaying employee is the ~2million unemployed. While generating tax and NI from many more in work and leaving them with a genuine living wage would be ideal a good start would be most of this 2million paying no tax or NI but receiving nothing or far less in benefits.
Here are ideas I posted on another thread:-
Start training some of our unemployed as nurses and midwives PDQ instead of 'poaching' from abroad.
Become self sufficient in pork, beef, chicken etc. ASAP
Much of the pork we eat is imported and lots of the poultry products in Iceland are birds reared in then processed in Poland.
Produce most of all types of vehicles as 50 years ago instead of importing the majority. This alone would require a significant volume of many types of steel.
As to new resources like Hinkley Point another fundamental issue is that going back over the years industry has been constantly slimmed down with far too few apprentices taken on to learn practical skills in the working environment so now the UK has no choice but to buy the skills in.
Re: Hinkley Point C
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 2:35 pm
by Jonboy
Hi Sparky,
Agree on what you said, the NHS is a disgrace for poaching, when I was in Zimbabwe in 1993 I had an accident and had to visit hospital with a fractured wrist, cost to me privately was around ?12 and that was everything, the service was great. By the end of 1994 things had changed, via agencies the NHS had a major recruiting drive in Africa and milked South Africa, Zimbabwe, Kenya and Zambia. To add further to the local problems Germany also recruited from their old colonies of Tanzania and Namibia, so the poor African countries who invested in training nurses saw their investment fly out on a plane, this was just unfair. Problem is in the NHS it still continues in one form or another today.
One other thing is student nurses today have to pay via student loans for their education, my godmother is a retired nurse, and she began her career on a small salary in a hospital, similar to that of an apprentice and from their progressed, let?s create an environment where people want to be part of it and not struggle with student debts.
Turning to food, yes that is a good point, in addition to pork from Poland most of the chickens and turkeys come from Hungary, we should on both crops and animal farming be doing more. When we leave the EEC will farmers still be able to get subsidies, to emphasis the point in the last 5 years ten per cent of dairy farms have closed or been merged, families who have lived on the land for generations have been forced to cities.
Turning to vehicles we are doing OK but need to do better, so much of the vehicle production line is assembly with the technical engineering done elsewhere, Volkswagen today now produce most of their engines and gearboxes in Hungary as do several other manufactures in the Gyor region. In Russia Putin got it right when he said if a manufacturer wishes to sell more than a certain number of vehicles per year they must manufacture the mechanical engineering in Russia, so all German and French cars, vans and lorries sold there have their engines clutch and gearboxes manufactured in Russia, handy if you plan military action. Also creates some worthwhile apprenticeships.
It would also be good if companies selling cars in the UK began assembling them here to.
Re: Hinkley Point C
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 5:59 pm
by Jonboy
Hi,
Just spoke to a mate on this is also suggests that the Government also do more for older unemployed workers, 4 years ago we both lost our jobs in Finance in London, since then I have had 653 applications 1 interview and been put forward for a total of 3 jobs by agencies, similar for him. Neither of us receive benefits our ISA take care of that but workwise we still both have a lot to give.
On complaining to our MPs we were told of the great things the government do for our generation and we were the fastest falling unemployed group,which is true, what the MPs omitted to mention is our age group pay substantially less tax and NI than the did in 2008 because the jobs we get offered are minimum wage. If you stay on at school, get 30+ years varied banking experience it is reasonable to expect to work for more than the minimum wage.
Both our jobs went to low costs centres in India today the banks have expanded that and in addition opened up low cost centres in Poland and Hungary, these being the same banks that we as tax payers saved. A bit like rescuing a drowning man only for him to mug you
Re: Hinkley Point C
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 7:47 pm
by sparky
Jonboy wrote:
> Hi Sparky,
...
> One other thing is student nurses today have to pay via student
> loans for their education, my godmother is a retired nurse, and
> she began her career on a small salary in a hospital, similar
> to that of an apprentice and from their progressed, let?s
> create an environment where people want to be part of it and
> not struggle with student debts
....
>
Hi Jonboy,
Yes indeed student nurses do not need the burden of loans rather a salary to cover the basic cost of living plus need to see the NHS as a good place to work long term not as now with so much pressure both workload and financial.
Back 30 years ago when I was at polytechnic my parents had no funds to support me. My education was paid for and I had a grant sufficient to pay to live half board with a family, buy lunch on site, essential materials and basic clothes. I then presumed a career in engineering was secure, not now. The company I work for has just completed a big order but now just a couple of relatively small jobs on the books .........